Igor Galanter
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Cheap Freight of the day
- Thread starter MyTrucksMyRates
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Is this still available? I sure as hell hope so.. The 80's called and are looking for their rates and hair back..
Pretty sure I get emails like this Amazon crap I do believe.
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I paid more to get 1 pallet, Toronto to Montreal, picked up on Fri and delivered Sat.
I need to be fired for gross incompetence
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Once you learn that trucks don't run on magic, and they require drivers that need to get paid and stuff it really messes up your perspective on the industry.I paid more to get 1 pallet, Toronto to Montreal, picked up on Fri and delivered Sat.
I need to be fired for gross incompetence
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so sick of hearing “we’re paying $XXX for this lane ” Since when do customers set the price? Seems like only in trucking. I don’t tell my plumber what I’m paying buddy gives me a quote, and if I don’t like it, I call the next guy. Simple.
starting to feel like negotiating in a street market. Spoke to a broker/carrier out of MB the other day won’t name names but your can guess who, but they’ve brought on staff who clearly come from a culture where haggling is the norm. Felt like I was in a bazaar, going back and forth over every single dollar. This industry’s turning into a joke. No one wants to pay for quality service, but they expect it anyway then make a post on LinkedIn on how carrier service is declining, after posting how their crushing Q2 and synergies boasts of course . Maybe try crushing a good rate you herbs.
starting to feel like negotiating in a street market. Spoke to a broker/carrier out of MB the other day won’t name names but your can guess who, but they’ve brought on staff who clearly come from a culture where haggling is the norm. Felt like I was in a bazaar, going back and forth over every single dollar. This industry’s turning into a joke. No one wants to pay for quality service, but they expect it anyway then make a post on LinkedIn on how carrier service is declining, after posting how their crushing Q2 and synergies boasts of course . Maybe try crushing a good rate you herbs.
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The other line we hear from shippers is “oh……we didn’t budget for that amount”. Who set the budget amount, the mail room clerk? If you manufacture and sell widgets, stay in your lane and don’t try and “guess” what freight rates are. Either use a freight broker you trust and let them get quotes, or call a bunch of trucking companies and then “guess” at which one will have a truck and provide the service on the day you need it.
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The issue we are facing is idle carriers absolutely cutting rates to below cost and presenting to shippers, this is where they are getting their budgets from, desperate carriers willing to run at any cost to get their foot in the door and move their trucks with hopes of increasing their rates down the line. Shippers that play that game and i have seen it all too many times, end up paying alot more for freight than if they were loyal to their carrier and broker base and met their partners with reasonable and sustainable year-round rates. We see it time again, the cheapest shippers get no mercy in a carrier's market no matter how many brokers they get on board to get low rates.
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“Modern” technology has something to do with it as well. Never before has it been easier to source the cheapest vendors via bid platforms. Some of them allow users to see other bids in hopes that people will outbid one another. AI is being deployed to mash through the bids and come up with the “winner” who outbid the 1200 other bidders. Before the bidding platforms, getting to the cheapest was a long drawn out process…people who submitted reasonable rates had a real shot at getting the business. No longer it seems..this is largely why we’re seeing these low rates..the “winners” are posting them, less their cut.
Now, I need a good professionally done haircut. Bidding starts at 5 bucks..going..going..do I hear $4.50?
Now, I need a good professionally done haircut. Bidding starts at 5 bucks..going..going..do I hear $4.50?
Damn my new barbershop is open in a back alley on a milk crate with street lighting, the mirror is really just a mirror tinted window from a stolen car... Can I pay you $1.25 to cut your hair, I need to get my foot in the door and the miles on those scissors. We also offer free coffee while waiting, but the cup costs $1.00 and the lid is $0.75.
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In today’s cut throat market, it is hard to distinguish what is more tragic. The brazen audacity of those offering the low rates, or the pathetic foolishness of those who accept them.
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I honestly don't think it's idle carriers that are accepting these rates - I have this persistent feeling that money is being siphoned out of the country into various industries abroad. (I'll get to this in a second)
• Idle or not, there is a certain level of self-respect and pride that goes into this job. You have drivers that are educated and well-mannered - they know what is what and work hard at it. They walk out of the truck at 7 am for a delivery, you can see that they aren't disheveled. Such an individual wouldn't stoop below their set standards for anyone - it would leave them with an uncomfortable, uneasy feeling that would stain their mindset. They have the foresight to understand that working below costs isn't feasible in the long term and is detrimental to precedent in the short term. I believe that these aren't the drivers doing the $2200 cross-country long haul.
• I have this feeling that there are companies operating with a preset end goal of not paying their drivers, of abusing government programs meant to ease industrial hiring burdens, and abusing safety and road regulations. Forcing drivers to work overtime, or knowingly skirting other precautions. This is a tough subject to broach.
Some companies work here for three years and then build an apartment building overseas (ask me who and how I know)
Some companies steal client lists and open up their operations, only to outsource their whole operations to less-than-competent teams.
Some companies co-broker and pass around freight between group chats of tens of thousands (if Dupont Chemicals only knew what happens to their lab equipment).
Sorry, there's no freight in my lanes, so it's audiobooks and soliloquies for me.
• Idle or not, there is a certain level of self-respect and pride that goes into this job. You have drivers that are educated and well-mannered - they know what is what and work hard at it. They walk out of the truck at 7 am for a delivery, you can see that they aren't disheveled. Such an individual wouldn't stoop below their set standards for anyone - it would leave them with an uncomfortable, uneasy feeling that would stain their mindset. They have the foresight to understand that working below costs isn't feasible in the long term and is detrimental to precedent in the short term. I believe that these aren't the drivers doing the $2200 cross-country long haul.
• I have this feeling that there are companies operating with a preset end goal of not paying their drivers, of abusing government programs meant to ease industrial hiring burdens, and abusing safety and road regulations. Forcing drivers to work overtime, or knowingly skirting other precautions. This is a tough subject to broach.
Some companies work here for three years and then build an apartment building overseas (ask me who and how I know)
Some companies steal client lists and open up their operations, only to outsource their whole operations to less-than-competent teams.
Some companies co-broker and pass around freight between group chats of tens of thousands (if Dupont Chemicals only knew what happens to their lab equipment).
Sorry, there's no freight in my lanes, so it's audiobooks and soliloquies for me.
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Often the broker or shipper already has people in place to take those loads at reasonable rates. What happens is that if its not a hot load, they might “test the waters” with a cheap rate, and if someone bites they switch their “regular” out for the cheap guy. I had a shipper who was offering 1.40/mi on loads from VA to NS. He and I had a frank conversation, and that’s what he told me they do. He admitted they never paid $1.40 but the odd time they did get a truck for $1.75 to $1.90..significantly cheaper than their regular carrier.
But isn’t this is whole crux? What is considered reasonable? Who decides that? Don’t cop out and say market forces.
