Agreed, if it's an account of that magnitude and you're paying the carrier within the agred upon terms, then they shouldn't even have the thought of switching. It's sad to see how far some are willing to go just for a slight boost in their profit margin at the cost of a business relationship. Desperate times call for desperate measures for some carriers I guess..
The DOE fuel price jumped 22 cents per gallon to US$4.127/GAL this week. Fuel prices in Ontario have jumped quite a bit too since July 1.
The noose around some guy's necks is getting tighter and tighter. Little freight, cheap freight rates and increased costs, are just going to put the nail in the coffin for a bunch of people.
Hold onto your hats....it's going to get bumpier yet.
As I mentioned earlier, turbulence continues. EIA is now at 4.54 - almost 45 cents per gallon US more in the past 6 weeks. That adds about US$140/week (190CAD) for a truck doing 2500 miles. In the meantime, rates have gone down and none have gone up. The amount of deadhead miles and wait time is growing.
As I mentioned earlier, turbulence continues. EIA is now at 4.54 - almost 45 cents per gallon US more in the past 6 weeks. That adds about US$140/week (190CAD) for a truck doing 2500 miles. In the meantime, rates have gone down and none have gone up. The amount of deadhead miles and wait time is growing.
The good ones always do. Any broker who decides to quote rates without consulting/confirming with a carrier, is not only a fool, but he is also likely doomed to failure. The cost of diesel fuel, new commercial vehicles, truck insurance or any other component of my suppliers overhead isn’t my concern, nor should it be. How effectively he manages those costs and how efficiently he operates his business certainly is. A professional operator who has a firm grasp on his expenses is a freight brokers most valuable business partner.
The good ones always do. Any broker who decides to quote rates without consulting/confirming with a carrier, is not only a fool, but he is also likely doomed to failure. The cost of diesel fuel, new commercial vehicles, truck insurance or any other component of my suppliers overhead isn’t my concern, nor should it be. How effectively he manages those costs and how efficiently he operates his business certainly is. A professional operator who has a firm grasp on his expenses is a freight brokers most valuable business partner.
Very well stated and we as carriers can only hope your thinking extends to all brokers but man o man are they ever playing the how low can you go bullshit. Lots telling me the rate and next thing they hear is pass and a dial tone. If you are going to start by insulting me then there is no use even trying to come to terms with a rate that works for both of us. Some of these brokers are a buck a mile and less so even a broker should be able to figure out that is not sustainable but well .....................
Very well stated and we as carriers can only hope your thinking extends to all brokers but man o man are they ever playing the how low can you go bullshit. Lots telling me the rate and next thing they hear is pass and a dial tone. If you are going to start by insulting me then there is no use even trying to come to terms with a rate that works for both of us. Some of these brokers are a buck a mile and less so even a broker should be able to figure out that is not sustainable but well .....................
thye ask for a rate - and when you give them a rate - I get :LOL / this is post covid / four carriers are doing it for $xyz .... why ask me for a rate then ... just say this is what I will pay - yes or no
end of story
There are some very good brokers in here that don't practice bad business and have some great relationships with carriers. That being said most of you good brokers aren't talking to 50-60 brokers a day, however, we carriers do. Every day, I see Giga-Chads who are still bitter from the past few years offering dirt rates and insulting carriers who don't want to haul their trash for pennies. What I don't understand is the animosity. everyone made money in those times, carriers and brokers and if you didn't that's on you. however now it's different, It's not exorbitant amounts of money carriers are asking for, just fair rates that cover costs and allow a profitable business.
I have never done a in-depth study, but regular common sense tells me that spending an inordinate amount of time trying to flog a load with a cheap rate attached isn’t economically sustainable. Wasting a dispatchers time attempting to convince, cajole or beg a carrier to take a cheap rate could be much better spent booking load, after load, after load with reasonable markups. I appreciate that there are many shippers trying to recoup the monies they spent with the high rates in 2021-2022, but honestly, if you quote a ridiculous low rate, the load just isn’t going to move.
I have never done a in-depth study, but regular common sense tells me that spending an inordinate amount of time trying to flog a load with a cheap rate attached isn’t economically sustainable. Wasting a dispatchers time attempting to convince, cajole or beg a carrier to take a cheap rate could be much better spent booking load, after load, after load with reasonable markups. I appreciate that there are many shippers trying to recoup the monies they spent with the high rates in 2021-2022, but honestly, if you quote a ridiculous low rate, the load just isn’t going to move.
If you quote your customer current, realistic rates that are confirmed by qualified, professional carriers who are willing and able to service the shipment, there is no reason why any broker should be taking ”hits, left and right”. I guess on occasion, you may have to reduce your margin if it is a difficult lane with few carriers providing service, but even that should be used as a lesson to quote more accurately in the future. We have all been burned at least once or twice by quoting a rate that is too low, and as a result maybe have taken a “hit”. However taking ”hits” constantly indicates a degree of poor management.
If you quote your customer current, realistic rates that are confirmed by qualified, professional carriers who are willing and able to service the shipment, there is no reason why any broker should be taking ”hits, left and right”. I guess on occasion, you may have to reduce your margin if it is a difficult lane with few carriers providing service, but even that should be used as a lesson to quote more accurately in the future. We have all been burned at least once or twice by quoting a rate that is too low, and as a result maybe have taken a “hit”. However taking ”hits” constantly indicates a degree of poor management.
What I was getting at is that we all have accounts where they blast it out to a bunch of different parties and they get some crazy cheap rate. I always say "that's coming back for sure." Then it never does.
My one customer has a notoriously tough lane from OH to GA/FL border. 3-5 loads a week. Broker was taking $500-$600 hits for weeks to save face with the customer after having it awarded to them in a RFP back in March.
They finally gave it up and its starting to go down the routing guide.
I was like 15th on the routing guide on the lane and I am starting to see them now.
Winging it happens. Only problem is, you have to have done it enough over the years to leave yourself some money. If you're winging it low, good luck - but there can be a happy medium. Of course you could also lose the work from shooting too high, but that's the gamble. Speed can be king for some.
A lot of it has to do with knowing the customer too, some shippers appreciate the speed of quote as long as you're within the ball park range. Others unfortunately couldn't care less and will wait it out until they see the carrier with their pants hanging the lowest.
A lot of it has to do with knowing the customer too, some shippers appreciate the speed of quote as long as you're within the ball park range. Others unfortunately couldn't care less and will wait it out until they see the carrier with their pants hanging the lowest.
Bingo! There is the problem in a nutshell. We can blame some freight brokers for offering ridiculously low rates, call them every name in the book, but what do we call the carrier who agrees to run his equipment at such crazy low rates? In tough times like these, people need to tighten their belts, not loosen them! Pull those pants up!!!
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UAW is on strike - you know what that means.
FIrst, all those carrier's drivers stuck away from home without their normal round trip back haul. They will all be flooding the LoadLink trying to find a load at any cost putting more pressure on the rates. On a Friday of course.
Second, automotive carriers will be looking for anything and everything that can generate some cash flow to keep the lights on or their drivers from jumping ship. This will get worse if the strike is prolonged.
Third, when UAW goes back to work, those carriers will be looking for something to get them back to start their runs over again. The guy who came back from Kansas City to Toronto with a LL load today will need one to go back out there after the strike.
Hold on to your hats! Rates will not get better soon.
A limited strike by autoworkers in the U.S. is expected to affect the sector in Canada as the industry in both countries is deeply integrated. About 13,000 U.S. workers went […] Continue reading...
www.insidetransport.com
UAW is on strike - you know what that means.
FIrst, all those carrier's drivers stuck away from home without their normal round trip back haul. They will all be flooding the LoadLink trying to find a load at any cost putting more pressure on the rates. On a Friday of course.
Second, automotive carriers will be looking for anything and everything that can generate some cash flow to keep the lights on or their drivers from jumping ship. This will get worse if the strike is prolonged.
Third, when UAW goes back to work, those carriers will be looking for something to get them back to start their runs over again. The guy who came back from Kansas City to Toronto with a LL load today will need one to go back out there after the strike.
Hold on to your hats! Rates will not get better soon.
US to GTA / PQ is absolutely ridiculous right now .... regular shippers are taking advantage of the unsustainable rates - don't blame them
This is not a healthy situation
Rest assured that you are not alone in your predicament..... Most people will be reluctant to divulge such a private information. However, the used truck market is a good indicator of what is going on. The average price of a used truck dropped 32% from this time last year. At the same time, auction yards are bursting in seams - 31% increase year-over-year ( as per FleetOwner data) So, parking the trucks is the only option as the sale prices are in the toilet too. No surprise there really. The only issue is for how long? The automotive labour issues in the USA are not very inspiring either. They could spell even more stagnation. I wish I had a crystal ball - maybe selling cheap now would be better than giving it away for free in six months or so....
I know some guys that bailed out of their leases albeit very painfully.