well alright then, I'm not angry anymore, Friday was a bad day. Today really not looking any better. Thanks for the message back.
Cheap Freight of the day
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take a hard look at whos doing it and then ask the very serious question of WHY
When freight is being hauled across a border to a destination for less then the cost of the fuel to get it there...you have to ask "WHY"....what doesn't seem to be getting mentioned much or even at all is the rampant drug trafficking thats occuring every day across these border points. It seems we over look sophistication . We all sit back and watch the rates get slashed to unprofitable levels and wonder how can they do it. Well it's easy if you are subsidizing it. Running trucks across the border empty is too obvious...running them cheap or for virtually no profit no one looks into.... but the pipeline keeps moving. Public information is displayed on the CBSA site and that is just the tip of the iceberg. Google "DRUG SMUGGLING BY TRUCKERS" and see what comes up...I'm not saying its everyone but you decide for yourself if there is a pattern...you wont have to look hard to see it.
When freight is being hauled across a border to a destination for less then the cost of the fuel to get it there...you have to ask "WHY"....what doesn't seem to be getting mentioned much or even at all is the rampant drug trafficking thats occuring every day across these border points. It seems we over look sophistication . We all sit back and watch the rates get slashed to unprofitable levels and wonder how can they do it. Well it's easy if you are subsidizing it. Running trucks across the border empty is too obvious...running them cheap or for virtually no profit no one looks into.... but the pipeline keeps moving. Public information is displayed on the CBSA site and that is just the tip of the iceberg. Google "DRUG SMUGGLING BY TRUCKERS" and see what comes up...I'm not saying its everyone but you decide for yourself if there is a pattern...you wont have to look hard to see it.
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Well just so I am painted with a different brush....I have Missisauga to Burlington 22 miles, pu today 4-6pm, del tomorrow 9-11 am
$250, all skidded....THAT'S $11 PER MILE !!!
$250, all skidded....THAT'S $11 PER MILE !!!
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Heh. I saw that posted and giggled just by the name beside it. What are they thinking? Even **IF** they paid permits, this load would end you in the hole, digging into your pocket for the Vaseline when you gotta pay the driver back to Houston...
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Montreal to toronto $ 600 flatbed load full load traps required excuse meee!!!!that tarp we will put on the load is more costly then freight rate.
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I have been on both sides of the fence and both parties have their responsibilities. Carriers should try to find the best rate for their business, same with the brokers. At the end of the day though, both the carrier and the broker need to eat.
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All it takes is one carrier to reduce their rates and the slide downwards begins. Brokers don’t control rates, the people who provide the service do. Nothing spells lower rates better than a carrier seeing his trucks parked in the lot. Spot market rates, by their very nature, fluctuate up and down.
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@loaders ... OMFG, so friggin' true !!!
And, when other carriers see that first carrier drop their rates, they think they have to as well. What they fail to realize is that the first carrier only has so many trucks, and can only do so much work. A little patience and inevitably the customer will come back and pay your rates ... simply because the first carrier cannot physically complete all the work.
And, when other carriers see that first carrier drop their rates, they think they have to as well. What they fail to realize is that the first carrier only has so many trucks, and can only do so much work. A little patience and inevitably the customer will come back and pay your rates ... simply because the first carrier cannot physically complete all the work.
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Carriers have the choice to say yes, or to say no to whatever rate is offered. Depending on fleet size, specific lane, re-positioning, etc. ,someone could say yes to a rate that others might find low. This idea that brokers somehow control freight rates similar to how the large fuel companies control fuel rates is ridiculous. The moment a carrier agrees to a rate, high or low, that rate can be used as the new standard going forward. Have we all forgotten what rates were doing earlier this year and late last year? Floods in BC, no trucks available anywhere, rates at 5, 7, 10++++ dollars a mile???? I don't seem to remember much grousing about low rates and brokers gouging carriers then. In order to survive in this business, you have to accept the fact that rates will always fluctuate, establish mutually beneficial relationships, learn to not panic and say "no" when you have to, and most importantly, know what your costs are inside and out, upside and down. Without that knowledge, all the other suggestions are meaningless.
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@Ruler, can you please explain how brokers are stealing from carriers? Just asking for a friend
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Such emotion !!!
Why do you let that bother you so much?
It's not personal.
If it doesn't fit your business model, then ignore it.
It's not worth getting an ulcer over it.
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we dont work with them from so long but they call and ask can you cover we just say truck is covered.
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Rates are low, freight is scare, input costs are higher.
Six months ago, rates were high, freight was plenty, and input costs were high.
I remember charging people 5-10/mile on loads and I kinda regret it. Could have secured a lot of direct freight by showing more integrity than my peers. Oh well lesson learned. Maybe not, this business is composed of unpredictable people and we are too eager to win back our perceived losses.
That wasn't business, that was greed, and one could say it was a gambling high. And I chose to participate in that, now the market hunts for its profits back.
Now in another six months the same thing will happen. I've spent a lot of time reflecting on my conduct so I'll choose to be better and see if it rewards me.
Six months ago, rates were high, freight was plenty, and input costs were high.
I remember charging people 5-10/mile on loads and I kinda regret it. Could have secured a lot of direct freight by showing more integrity than my peers. Oh well lesson learned. Maybe not, this business is composed of unpredictable people and we are too eager to win back our perceived losses.
That wasn't business, that was greed, and one could say it was a gambling high. And I chose to participate in that, now the market hunts for its profits back.
Now in another six months the same thing will happen. I've spent a lot of time reflecting on my conduct so I'll choose to be better and see if it rewards me.
I remember certain posts from brokers "grousing" about carrier's gouging back then LOL but I digress. Here's a screen grab for context from a customer of mine. The rates in red are by a well known broker and the the other lower rate, a carrier who reach out to them directly. (blurred out for obvious reasons and you'll have to take my word for it that this was for the same move from Mississauga to Red deer and then back again, only difference being 1 quoted by a broker and the other by a carrier)
Who's gouging who really? LOL
