US Tariffs

No point in making a new deal when Trump clearly doesn't honour agreements. He has completely ignored the current CUSMA.. he would likely do the same with a new agreement... his signature means nothing. Thus negotiation would be a waste of time and oxygen..

Also, the world order has changed... America and Russia are now the best and closest of allies.. Likely Putin is calling some shots here. Our best bet going forward is to assume the tariffs are going to be with us for awhile and to bite the bullet while building other relationships. I like Mexico.. let's do more with them. Let's do more with Europe as well.

Even if the tariffs are revoked today, the damage is done. We are no longer allies. Let's accept that and move forward.
 
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Exactly, the trust and willingness to cooperate between our nations has been destroyed. Even after Trump has left the world scene, the damage his administration has done will be hard if not impossible to repair. Simply because of our shared geography, the US will always be our largest trading partner. However, this has hopefully taught Canada to not take them for granted and to look elsewhere for new markets to trade with. Once a dog has bared his teeth, regardless of how friendly they might have been previously, they can never be trusted again.
 
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mtltrans said:
Trump will get creamed in the midterm elections. Between now and then, a lot can happen.
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I agree, approval ratings already dropping, a lot of MAGATS dont realize this, but we are only in the FA stage of things here, all these actions will have a consequence, you're already seeing massive labor shortages in the agriculture and food production industries, who predominantly hired undocumented workers for labor. Food costs will start creeping up

Meanwhile, Trump keeps throwing out his “We’re gonna be so rich” speeches, but let’s be real that’s not for the working class. It’s for his rich pals who will be getting tax breaks, not Barb and her "Cusband" in Arkansas who aren’t gonna be getting much out of these deals either. If Canada and Mexico can already cause this much of a mess, just wait until those reciprocal tariffs kick in on the 2nd. Let’s see how that plays out when prices start jumping even higher, and businesses start feeling the heat from all corners.
 
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mtltrans said:
Trump will get creamed in the midterm elections. Between now and then, a lot can happen.
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He can't run again anyways, since this is his second term. It will likely be JD taking his place in 2028. But as you said a lot can happen, he could change the 22nd ammendment and run for a third term which would be unprecedented.
 
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senditover said:
He can't run again anyways, since this is his second term. It will likely be JD taking his place at the midterms. But as you said a lot can happen, he could change the 22nd ammendment and run for a third term which would be unprecedented.
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Vance is another assclown. Neither are fit to be statesmen or diplomats. They don't even understand economics. There's even a scene in Ferris Bueller's Day Off where Ben Stein mentions what happened when the US used tariffs to raise revenue. They plunged into a depression. Even found a clip of Reagan talking about tariffs and how he was against them. History is being ignored.
 
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senditover said:
He can't run again anyways, since this is his second term. It will likely be JD taking his place at the midterms. But as you said a lot can happen, he could change the 22nd ammendment and run for a third term which would be unprecedented.
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The mid term elections are held every 2 years into a Presidential, 4 year term. Which is why they are called, mid term elections. There are Senate seats, House of Representatives seats and some Gubernatorial races all up for grabs in the mid term elections. The President does not run in the mid terms and the Vice President never runs as he is appointed/selected by the President. In war, it is a good strategy to know your enemy. As for Trump running again in 2028, he could very well make a Supreme Court case out of the fact that his two terms were not concurrent, therefore allowing him to run again. That we will have to wait and see, but nothing, absolutely nothing, would surprise me.
 
mtltrans said:
Vance is another assclown. Neither are fit to be statesmen or diplomats. They don't even understand economics. There's even a scene in Ferris Bueller's Day Off where Ben Stein mentions what happened when the US used tariffs to raise revenue. They plunged into a depression. Even found a clip of Reagan talking about tariffs and how he was against them. History is being ignored.
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JD was an interesting pick for sure, he was a never Trumper and then all of a sudden became such a Trump loyalist. The guy is obviously power hungry.. On the side of tariffs, they're not so bad against adversaries but using them against allies is definitely questionable unless there's good reason for it. I think we'll have to succumb to easing US banking regulations and lowering some of our tariffs on agriculture, particularly dairy. You may start to see more US dairy products on our shelves and US banks pop up on our market in the near future once the deal is finalized.
 
loaders said:
The mid term elections are held every 2 years into a Presidential, 4 year term. Which is why they are called, mid term elections. There are Senate seats, House of Representatives seats and some Gubernatorial races all up for grabs in the mid term elections. The President does not run in the mid terms and the Vice President never runs as he is appointed/selected by the President. In war, it is a good strategy to know your enemy. As for Trump running again in 2028, he could very well make a Supreme Court case out of the fact that his two terms were not concurrent, therefore allowing him to run again. That we will have to wait and see, but nothing, absolutely nothing, would surprise me.
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Yes, my mistake I meant to say running for a third term is prohibited. corrected that, thanks loaders.
 
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US banks pop up on our market in the near future once the deal is finalized.
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This wouldn't be too bad, there are a few US banks that we deal with here that have Canadian branches, it will definitely create some diversity and competition in the financial landscape, which we have been missing for quite some time.
 
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LrgCar said:
This wouldn't be too bad, there are a few US banks that we deal with here that have Canadian branches, it will definitely create some diversity and competition in the financial landscape, which we have been missing for quite some time.
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Telecom should be mentioned too, Verizon tried entering our market many years ago and our companies lobbied them out. I'm sure we've all been dinged by Bell or Rogers one too many times.
 
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senditover said:
Telecom should be mentioned too, Verizon tried entering our market many years ago and our companies lobbied them out. I'm sure we've all been dinged by Bell or Rogers one too many times.
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Highest telecom costs in the world, how quickly people forget how badly we get bent over by our patriotic leaders once orangeman starts talking
 
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mtltrans said:
Trump will get creamed in the midterm elections. Between now and then, a lot can happen.
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senditover said:
JD was an interesting pick for sure, he was a never Trumper and then all of a sudden became such a Trump loyalist. The guy is obviously power hungry.. On the side of tariffs, they're not so bad against adversaries but using them against allies is definitely questionable unless there's good reason for it. I think we'll have to succumb to easing US banking regulations and lowering some of our tariffs on agriculture, particularly dairy. You may start to see more US dairy products on our shelves and US banks pop up on our market in the near future once the deal is finalized.
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The dairy thing is bunk. The massive tariffs they keep referring to only apply once they exceed quota (or whatever they are calling it). They have never come close to meeting that threshold.

The bank situation is interesting. I'm honestly surprised they have not already made their way to Canada. The Big 5 have had a stranglehold for a long time.

New announcements were made this morning about "dollar for dollar tariffs" but its all just starting to sound like Charlie Brown's teacher "wha wha whaaaaing" nonstop.
 
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Brenda said:
The dairy thing is bunk. The massive tariffs they keep referring to only apply once they exceed quota (or whatever they are calling it). They have never come close to meeting that threshold.

The bank situation is interesting. I'm honestly surprised they have not already made their way to Canada. The Big 5 have had a stranglehold for a long time.

New announcements were made this morning about "dollar for dollar tariffs" but its all just starting to sound like Charlie Brown's teacher "wha wha whaaaaing" nonstop.
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the whole MAGA platform relies on misinformation and twisting the truth, all I've been seeing on TikTok is you guys tariff us astronomically, it's just another trick so get the pea brains riled up.
 
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Brenda said:
The dairy thing is bunk. The massive tariffs they keep referring to only apply once they exceed quota (or whatever they are calling it). They have never come close to meeting that threshold.
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They have never come close because in some cases it's not even worth operating if you need to produce well over that quota in the long term. Take the Chobani case for example, they are America's largest yoghurt company and were fought tooth and nail by Dairy farmers in Canada.

Banned in Canada

Ontario Chobani plant still on hold after a year
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senditover said:
He can't run again anyways, since this is his second term. It will likely be JD taking his place in 2028. But as you said a lot can happen, he could change the 22nd ammendment and run for a third term which would be unprecedented.
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I thought it was that they could not run more than 2 terms consecutively. Skip the 3rd and then they can go again.
 
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