Hey JimL....the like button doesn't work anymore so I'm giving you a like to this article!
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Igor Galanter
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I really would have liked to be a fly on the wall when Justin Trudeau and Doug Ford were having their conversations about the emergency order. I recommended to my MP, who is PC, that they should distance themselves from this problem - it's really a problem at the federal level and not the provincial level and Trudeau needs to deal with it. The PC party could have up ticked their re-election opportunities if Doug Ford would have come on the screen and said that. The truckers were stopped from crossing the border unless they were fully vaccinated. Reversing that mandate (remember it is not a law) would give more than enough to negotiate with the truckers to ease their protests. I believe that alone would have ended it.
Instead, Doug Ford has sided with Justin Trudeau and did the dirty work for him. Did he do this because he wanted to? Or was it some form of coercion from Justin Trudeau. Was there a threat to provincial transfer payments or some other kind of politics were in play here? What does Justin have on Douggie? It will never come out.
Instead, Doug Ford has sided with Justin Trudeau and did the dirty work for him. Did he do this because he wanted to? Or was it some form of coercion from Justin Trudeau. Was there a threat to provincial transfer payments or some other kind of politics were in play here? What does Justin have on Douggie? It will never come out.
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Or perhaps, even someone like Doug Ford could see the political advatage of listening to the majority of Canadians who find this type of unlawful and disruptive behaviour entirely distasteful. Yes, the cross border vaccine mandate is federal jurisdiction, however pretty much every other restriction that the protestors disagree with falls under provincial purview . Jim, I have to be honest with you, even if the feds had done a complete 180 on the cross border mandate, I really doubt if that would have been enough to diffuse this. Unfortunately if there were indeed any rational, level headed leadership to negotiate with on the part of the protestors, they have remained strangely silent. Conceding anything at this late stage would be seen as weakness and capitulation on the part of the government, promoting even more demands as the mob would smell blood in the water. I wish this standoff had been averted weeks ago. It has done severe damage to our industry and the economy…….and for what?
As I write this hundreds of vehicles are slowly passing by my business location. All with flags and honking the horn.
The impasse may be quelled at specific locations but the problem did not go away. In fact I my crystal ball is showing more issues to come. Trudeau even said it himself 'All options are on the table to end this' but would would negotiate with the lawyer representing the Ottawa group? No. Did he reverse the mandate for truckers - I guess that was no. The options are to spend tons more money - money that we don't have to get his own way. The reality is that he is only concerned about your comment - Conceding anything at this late stage would be seen as weakness and capitulation on the part of the government.
You hit the nail on the head and his posturing has cost the economy billions more than Canada can afford. His dad went down in history for the FLQ Crisis. Justin Trudeau will go down in history for failing to deal with this crisis.
Out of all the vaccines that we have been asked, recommended or required to take: Chicken Pox, Diphtheria, Influenza, Hepatitis, HPV, Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Shingles, Tetanus, Whooping Cough, Polio, Pneumonia, etc, I have never experienced a vaccine that forced me to wear a mask and maintain a social distance even when one is fully vaccinated. I have never heard of a vaccine that spreads the virus even after being fully vaccinated. I have never heard of rewards, discounts or incentives to get vaccinated. I have never saw discrimination against those who didn’t get the vaccination. If one hasn’t been vaccinated no one makes one feel that you are a bad person. None of those vaccinations resulted in destroying relations between families, colleagues and friends. I have never seen a vaccine used to threaten the livelihood of work or school and I’ve never seen a vaccine that allows a 12 year old to override all parental consent. After all the vaccines that are listed above I have never seen a vaccine like the COVID vaccine that discriminates, divides and judges society as it is. What a powerful vaccine that does everything BUT IMMUNIZE. If we still need one or more booster doses after we are fully vaccinated, AND we still need a negative PCR test even though being fully vaccinated AND we still need to wear a mask after being fully vaccinated, AND we still need to maintain social distance after being fully vaccinated, AND we still may need hospitalization after being fully vaccinated, AND we still may die from COVID even though being fully vaccinated, then it is time for all of us to admit that we have ALL BEEN DECEIVED.
You have Justin Trudeau and doctors/scientists who are being pressured to maintain this narrative to thank for deceiving Canada.
THANK YOU to all those who have done what you can to show how we have been deceived.
You have Justin Trudeau and doctors/scientists who are being pressured to maintain this narrative to thank for deceiving Canada.
THANK YOU to all those who have done what you can to show how we have been deceived.
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Is it just Canada that has been subject to this deception, or has the rest of the world been deceived as well? I checked, and at the present time Feb 11, approx 54% of the entire world’s population have received 2 doses. Just to be sure we all understand what that number represents, it is 4 BILLION, 239 MILLION, 822 THOUSAND, 858 people, just like you and me. Another 1.1 BILLION decided, oh what the heck, let’s go for three shots! I am not dismissing the fact that there are quite a few Canadians who are…..upset, but most of the world seems to think that this whole vaccination thing was kind of the right thing to do and gladly rolled up their sleeves. If you don’t like JT, that’s fine, but he didn’t mastermind this global pandemic, and like all world leaders, he did the right thing, the only thing really, and listened to the best possible science and medical advice available. Restrictions are lifting across the globe and right here at home. Everyone has heard the complaints and the concerns of the protestors. Message received, loud and clear, now, let’s wrap it up and get back to what we do best…trucking. Last time I looked, no matter how hard you might try, or how loud you may protest, no one can ever be “undeceived”.
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And, don't forget that at one time there was serious talk on the federal level of sending people that were not vaccinated and/or contaminated to "special camps" in Northern Ontario.
Wouldn't it have just be easier to have everyone not vaccinated get a special tattoo and maybe have to wear a special symbol on their clothes?
It's almost as if Herr Trudeau missed a couple of chapters in "Mein Kampf".
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No there wasn’t. Sounds exciting and plays into this popular, evil government conspiracy narrative, but no, there was no talk of such nonsense, serious or otherwise. In any event, it certainly appears that this whole topic will be dying soon. Ontario and many other provinces are relaxing and revoking the mandates that they imposed. Hopefully in due course, the protestors will see that whatever it was that got their dander up, has gone by the wayside. Of course, the hardcore, mad at everything, especially anything Trudeau, crowd might have a hard time dealing with the new reality of wait for it…….no more mandates! Ahhh can you smell it? That’s the smell of freedom in the morning!
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You seem to have a penchant for calling me a liar. That's going to cause a problem if it continues.
Then finally some clarification ...
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/covid-19-internment-camps-disinformation-1.5769592
There is a caveat in the relaxation of rules, at least for Ontario. If the virus continues its downward trend, the relaxed rules will move forward.
Free? Only until the provincial election is over.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/covid-19-internment-camps-disinformation-1.5769592
There is a caveat in the relaxation of rules, at least for Ontario. If the virus continues its downward trend, the relaxed rules will move forward.
Free? Only until the provincial election is over.
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That is what happens when people believe what they read and hear on social media. Exciting and wow, just what I thought they would do! But in the end, completely untrue. Let me say without hesitation that I would never call you a liar, just mistaken. It happens to the best of us, especially when the atmosphere is heated. If the virus continues its downward trend……isn’t that what we all want? Talk like that makes me wonder if we will ever be able to sit down, hold hands and sing Kumbaya ever again!
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Not without vaccinations, a rapid test, a mask, and social distancing ... LOL
I see my local grocery store took all their social distancing markers off the floor, so maybe there is hope for sitting around the campfire ... who knows.
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I have faith brother. Although I have been saying it for what seems like months and months now, I do believe that the worst is now behind us. A couple more months of wearing a mask and BiNGO, it’s history. Until the next contagious, unknown virus appears that is. The anger and finger pointing has to end, it really isn’t healthy. Let’s get back to complaining about things we are good at, high taxes, low depreciation write downs, capital gains exemptions. You know, good old fashion Canadian complaints!
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Assuming we continue to march forward from this and everything is eventually returned to the normal we once knew, I wonder what we've learnt from this experience to prepare us for the next global heath variant of concern.
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That is a real cause for concern. The extraordinary distrust of government, science and the medical community displayed by some during this pandemic makes one wonder what happens the next time a new virus sweeps over the globe.
So now the Government can can force a tow truck operator to provide service. Wow, we are going backwards - even more freedoms being whittled away. Don't ask me to provide any service.
@JustinTrudeau better use his new found powers gingerly. Absolutely nobody wants to see this go overboard.
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Perhaps that most effective measures of this Act will be the seizure of the protestors Government corporate accounts, the revocation of vehicle insurance, the cancellation of business licences. There hopefully will be no or little need to use any force. Usually an effective punch to the pocketbook can bring folks back to their senses. Maybe, just maybe, most of the protestors will see the writing is on the wall and go home peacefully.
Things are going to get worse before they get better.
Justin Trudeau is a divisive petty form of his term peoplekind.
If you don't agree with him , he will call you islamaphobic, racist, misogynistic , transphobic etc.
The media has helped cause this ....... pre covid nobody gave a crap what your vaccine status was.....we truly live in weird times.
Justin Trudeau is a divisive petty form of his term peoplekind.
If you don't agree with him , he will call you islamaphobic, racist, misogynistic , transphobic etc.
The media has helped cause this ....... pre covid nobody gave a crap what your vaccine status was.....we truly live in weird times.
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By worse, do mean more firearms being discovered amongst the protestors? Or more pieces of farm equipment and trucks endangering officers lives by ramming into police barricades? I certainly hope not. There has been more than enough criminal behaviour on display across the country so far. The best outcome now is for cooler heads to prevail, wind down the protest and start to enjoy the loosening of restrictions. Bottle up all this anger and hate some folks seem to have for the current Prime Minister and then open it up at election time. Ottawa needs their city back and the country needs to keep our economy flowing across open borders.
Igor Galanter
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A “Striking” Link Between Vitamin D Levels and Omicron
New data reveal an unexpected risk factor for the highly contagious Omicron as well as other COVID variants. Vitamin D levels serve as a useful marker.
www.psychologytoday.com
Take good care, folks!