It is not about the vaccines or mandates anymore.
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Trucker Convoy
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I cant help it but think that such "protest" would have been differently handled if it takes place in the U.S.
Something tells me that the USDOT regulations and the centralized federally regulated safety ratings there, would make a driver or trucking companies think twice before blocking roads and causing a hazards situations.
in Canada, it's much more provincially regulated allowing the truckers to take us out on a free lunch.
Talk about states rights vs. federal control....
What do you say?
Something tells me that the USDOT regulations and the centralized federally regulated safety ratings there, would make a driver or trucking companies think twice before blocking roads and causing a hazards situations.
in Canada, it's much more provincially regulated allowing the truckers to take us out on a free lunch.
Talk about states rights vs. federal control....
What do you say?
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Just as the vast majority of the vaccine mandates that this protest claims to be about, are in fact provincial, not federal. When people are “mad as hell and I am not going to take it anymore” about everything under the Sun, to quote an older movie, it really doesn’t matter what lights their fuse. I hope we haven’t seen the end of the rule of law. Without it we could be subject to the antics of any group of citizens who feel things aren’t going their way. For all those applauding the actions of this group and those attached to it, be careful what you wish for. The next circus that sets up camp in Ottawa, or your home town, may not be the type of characters you would invite over for dinner.
Igor Galanter
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Igor Galanter
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I happen to agree with you on every word.
For all the talk that we are a monarchy, a communist form of government or a totalitarian regime while the U.S. has state rights, a constitution and a declaration of "independence".
They have a Federal CDC card, we don't. The Federal government wanted to create a national vax passport but the provinces refused because it's their "jurisdiction". They rather agreed to add the Canada logo in their issued vax passes.
They have a DOT we don't. Well, we do but you all know how it looks like....
All the covid regulations/restrictions here were created by "elected officials" on a "provincial level". I can see why those laws may not be the right one, there is also an argument it maybe unconstitutional. Well, take it to the courts or win elections.
Any other means of proving a point will not help anyone in the long-term or in the short-term.
It's more a "feel good moment" then a national real strategy going forward.
Again, the fact that these truckers can use their licensed commercial vehicles to stage a illegal protest in the nations capital without fear of getting violations which would be recorded in a central federal data-base with public access is as sign of true freedom and democracy in it and it self.
And no! we don't need lectures or help from any U.S. politicians, we`ll settle this on our own.
And before anyone argues that the quarantine rules upon arrival from overseas where in fact instituted by the feds, do a bit of reading.
Anytime there was a new wave, the provinces put public and private pressure on he feds to block travel as a way of putting pressure and blame on Treadu. (Maybe they wanted it to "convince" more people to get vaccinated, either way it was "them" not the feds who pushed for it, hence state (provincial) rights.
I'm not a Treadu fan nor am i liberal. I'm a fan of facts and reason. I know it's not popular these days but i hope you appreciate my honesty and sincerity.
May GOD help us all.
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Trudeau said yesterday "
The protesters in Ottawa are "trying to blockade our economy, our democracy and our fellow citizens' daily lives. It has to stop," said Monday night in the House of Commons.
"The people of Ottawa don't deserve to be harassed in their own neighbourhoods."
Now - the same thing can be said for Canadians the last 2 years
The Government of Canada is trying to blockade our economy, our democracy and our fellow citizens daily lives. It has to stop. The people of CANADA don't deserve to be harassed by their own government.
Justin Trudeau hates Canadians
#HonkHonk
The protesters in Ottawa are "trying to blockade our economy, our democracy and our fellow citizens' daily lives. It has to stop," said Monday night in the House of Commons.
"The people of Ottawa don't deserve to be harassed in their own neighbourhoods."
Now - the same thing can be said for Canadians the last 2 years
The Government of Canada is trying to blockade our economy, our democracy and our fellow citizens daily lives. It has to stop. The people of CANADA don't deserve to be harassed by their own government.
Justin Trudeau hates Canadians
#HonkHonk
Shakey
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Did you vote against Trudeau in last election?
below taken from one of the best signs I've seen against this "freedom convoy" from the healthcare counter protest
"Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn't freedom, it's adolescence"
Once again, he did not address their concerns but dismissed them as harassers - horrible leadership.
@justintrudeau will have to address them soon before @joebiden calls him. I think now it would be cheaper to remove the vaccination mandate then to have to pay all the police to manage the convoys.
Yes I did. I also think that a lot of other Canadians expected a leader to deal with everything and not choose what not to address. Many people took to letter writing and calling their MPs about the mandatory vaccines and didn't work. When the government does not listen to their people they will get protesters and eventually the protesters will get louder and louder until they are addressed.
Its time to end mandatory vaccinations in Canada and stop the coercion trying to make the last 15% get the shots. The longer @JustinTrudeau chooses to dismiss them and not address them the protesters will look for more ways to get their opinions addressed.
@JustinTrudeau - do something.
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Here is a pretty good read from an Ottawa resident that lives at ground zero.
And hear we have been told by no less than our PM that everyone in the convoy is a _______________________ fill in all the nasty things you can think up. Not a fan of it but seeing our media portray hard working Canadians that are standing up for their beliefs (right or wrong) is disheartning.
And hear we have been told by no less than our PM that everyone in the convoy is a _______________________ fill in all the nasty things you can think up. Not a fan of it but seeing our media portray hard working Canadians that are standing up for their beliefs (right or wrong) is disheartning.
"Did you vote against Trudeau in the last election?" Come on.....! What choices did we have? Really!
Almost 40% stayed at home. Why? Because they can't be bothered?
He won with 33.12% votes out of 17 million ballots. He was elected by approx. 6 million Canadians. That's around 1/5th of the eligible voters!
Besides, one of your biggest responsibilities in a TRUE democracy is insisting on your rights. Especially, when they get violated....
Nobody is saying they are 100% dead on and this is the best way to do it, but there are trying to get something done. There is a significant percentage of the population sharing their views, and they surely should not be ignored.
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Shakey
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Shakey
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Here is a pretty good read from an Ottawa resident that lives at ground zero.
And hear we have been told by no less than our PM that everyone in the convoy is a _______________________ fill in all the nasty things you can think up. Not a fan of it but seeing our media portray hard working Canadians that are standing up for their beliefs (right or wrong) is disheartning.
lots out there with opposite
Shakey
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wasn't directed at you but maybe they should try to do something without acting like the USA right wing crazies.
Understand all your points but that doesn't make taking over a city right
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Yes the media that at one time gave fair and unbiased reporting. Now it is all fear and propaganda of death and destruction. Covid should of killed us all 32 times according to the media!! I got a 24 hr flu instead I win.
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Media is now highlighting the race issue - I got a call yesterday from media asking if I would speak for research on this story - I asked what kind of research...and they said ... 'that the majority of people in the trucking industry are POC (people ofcolour) so why is the convoy representative of a particular group only'...
The convoy and organizers need to take their narrative back from the media and be clear in their objectives - it is being diluted by 'why are there US flags', 'why is there no POC in the rally'... and similar questions...
The convoy and organizers need to take their narrative back from the media and be clear in their objectives - it is being diluted by 'why are there US flags', 'why is there no POC in the rally'... and similar questions...
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At some point in time, this protest will come to an end, hopefully peacefully. What shall we do the next time a loud, vocal group of our fellow citizens descend on the capital to demand that their particular concerns be addressed? There is no shortage of emotional, divisive issues similar to the ones on display presently. For example, what if the pro life movement mobilized thousands of protestors and clogged the downtown core demanding an end to a woman’s right of free choice? Or the pro capital punishment group? The Fair Tax Reform group? There are numerous climate change groups who could easily rally thousands of experienced protestors to dance and sing into the night as they brought downtown Ottawa to a halt. Regardless of how you may feel about those groups, they do have the same “right” to protest and demand that the government agree to their demands or resign.If we allow the current protestors the “freedom” to blockade streets, close schools, public transit and businesses, we would have to allow the same to whom ever else wanted to make the government change course and bend to their will. If we are OK with that, then elections as we know them would be of little value. We would be governed by who ever can yell the loudest and bring the biggest group of protestors into the street. We would have in fact achieved absolute freedom, otherwise know by its proper name…anarchy.
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My turn?
This is a rabbit hole that could go on forever, so I'll chime in, and leave you all with two thoughts;
1) Mainstream media will not tell you the truth. Do your own research, and lots of it.
2) In the history of mankind, no republic has lasted more than 300 years.
- The U.S. is 245 years old and Canada is tied to its hip.
This is a rabbit hole that could go on forever, so I'll chime in, and leave you all with two thoughts;
1) Mainstream media will not tell you the truth. Do your own research, and lots of it.
2) In the history of mankind, no republic has lasted more than 300 years.
- The U.S. is 245 years old and Canada is tied to its hip.