Your loss is the shippers/ brokers profit. Same rules you just stated applies there.
Why must the shipper/ broker pay you more when it's cutting into their profits.
Cheap Freight of the Day
- Thread starter thebluffs1
- Start date
Your loss is the shippers/ brokers profit. Same rules you just stated applies there.
Why must the shipper/ broker pay you more when it's cutting into their profits.
30
West to east is super cheap unless it moves between off the beaten path points. (like Swift Current to Thuunder Bay). what can one do. The market is the market. I just quoted a guy $250.00 for a skid from Guelph to Halifax. Not even close according to the shipper... getting it moved now for $119.00 all in. 1200 lb standard size.
Shakey
Site Supporter
30
30
These last few comment remind me why I don't run Canada anymore. Back in late 90'searly 2000's you could make money but the rates are a joke now.
Rates from the west always sucked but 2-2400 from the coast??? intermodal or not how can that pay. Is CN and CP taking trailers for a grand?
Rates from the west always sucked but 2-2400 from the coast??? intermodal or not how can that pay. Is CN and CP taking trailers for a grand?
20
Milton ON to Montreal $350 USD offered to us by Coyote Logistics... disappointing, they usually pay decent...
30
Inter-Canada long haul rates suck largely because intermodal service is very competitive. There is almost no difference in service interval between single driver OTR and IML and pricing isn't even close. Of course that's on dry van ... when heat/reefer is involved the IML price advantage isn't so much, risk is higher, and equipment availability is typically an issue in peak seasons.
Dry intermodal boxes are cheap enough to buy to be a real problem for long-haul OTR carriers to compete with.
And the best way to make money disappear is to run a for hire trucking company running Toronto-Montreal. The only ones who do it profitably are running dedicated freight, LCVs, or a combination of the two.
Dry intermodal boxes are cheap enough to buy to be a real problem for long-haul OTR carriers to compete with.
And the best way to make money disappear is to run a for hire trucking company running Toronto-Montreal. The only ones who do it profitably are running dedicated freight, LCVs, or a combination of the two.
20
I think one of the factors regarding the rail these days is both CN and CP have really up'd their game regarding service levels, visibility and pricing which is really hurting the road carriers. 10 years ago it used to be "yeah, I can ship it by rail for cheaper but not really confident it will pick up on time or deliver on time and in tact so not worth the savings" These days, we can get a 53' HC from GTA to Calgary, AB with 3 days transit at about $3,000 CAD along with great technology and on time performance on the pick up and delivery end.
30
Yes, the railroads have come a long way over the last ten years but still hard to compete with trucking service levels There are still areas of opportunity for the truckers. Longhaul on anything that doesn't compete with rail and shorthaul rates seem to be ok too.
30
Vision like's to play the game. I have found if you work with them you can usually get a fair rate.
Sav always starts cheap.
Sav always starts cheap.
Last edited:
30
Polaris offers their customers online access to their rates as a courtesy and to make working with them as easy as possible. I'm not sure they want them posted online. Polaris (Larry) will correct me if I'm wrong.
Keep well,
Mike
I'm not sure TGIF is strong enough for the feeling this week, also of note - GO JAYS!!!!!
Last edited:
Polaris offers their customers online access to their rates as a courtesy and to make working with them as easy as possible. I'm not sure they want them posted online. Polaris (Larry) will correct me if I'm wrong.
Keep well,
Mike
I'm not sure TGIF is strong enough for the feeling this week, also of note - GO JAYS!!!!!
Removed the rates.
Go Jays Go as well!
You are absolutely right Mike.Polaris offers their customers online access to their rates as a courtesy and to make working with them as easy as possible. I'm not sure they want them posted online. Polaris (Larry) will correct me if I'm wrong.
Keep well,
Mike
I'm not sure TGIF is strong enough for the feeling this week, also of note - GO JAYS!!!!!
Our rates very on many factors and are password protected to maintain confidentiality for Polaris and our customer.
20
Just getting back to the board and catching up ... bet you all missed me didn't you ??? ... LOL
Anyways, I heard thru the grapevine that some carriers plying the cross-Canada trade are paying their drivers by the hour to go from Toronto to Vancouver. Driving time only, minimum wage !!!!!!!!!!!
So that's like 54 driving hours at $11.25 an hour ... $607.50 and you have to feed and clean yourself for 5 or 6 days out of that ... geez, my friggin' dream job <insert seething sarcasm here>.
30
I bet they are some quality drivers but I have to ask why not work for Mickey D's or some other place for that kind of money.
30
If true, that's sickening. But, if there's less drivers than needed, do they need to work for this kind of compensation? Would it be drivers that are not able to run to the US and are stuck competing with rail rates? I don't get the logic of paying this to a driver... It certainly doesn't encourage a massive pool of capable people to enter the workforce in our industry...
Mike - you know we missed you! Hope you are well sir!
Mike
30
The driver shortage exists but it's partly exaggerated. What is meant by it is that there are not enough drivers around to fill every seat out there ... but if every seat out there is filled, there is too much capacity in the market and profitability goes down ... and when profitability goes down, wages get depressed.
The only way to make sure this kind of stuff doesn't happen is for people and companies to refuse it ... this is the way the free market works. It should correct itself though I admit it doesn't happen overnight.
The only way to make sure this kind of stuff doesn't happen is for people and companies to refuse it ... this is the way the free market works. It should correct itself though I admit it doesn't happen overnight.
30
Up until about five years ago the manual gearbox was the great gatekeeper in this industry: if you couldn't master it then you couldn't be a truck driver. Automated transmissions have opened things up for alot of people who would not have been able to get into the industry until recently. I've met drivers recently who can't drive a manual.