Wayne Smith Transport -BAD ACTORS-

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Moved a load Aug 9 2009 from Canton MA to North Bay, still have not been paid, after numerous phone calls to Glen Smith and getting every excuse imaginable, nothing.;)
-- looks like another case for Dirk danger small claims ranger--

OH ya stay away from this idiot if you want to get paid.
 
Wayne Smith

Dirk Danger, too funny, can you give me his number.......
maybe this is Mike Myers next role.
 
FYI these guys don't have a brokers license or a US surety bond. I guess i should have looked into that first...my bad. But i am familiar with the company i have just never dealt with them until this. HUGE mistake.

But this screams the question.

Why does Load link allow people to post loads without the proper authority??????
 
Just a question, but do carriers feel more at ease when they accept a load from another carrier rather than a broker? Does the fact that they own and operate equipment somehow give a false sense of security? I haven't been keeping score, but it seems that the number of complaints about carriers not paying their bills is close to, if not equal to, the complaints about brokers not paying. It would seem to me that regardless of who is offering the load, the same attention to credit checks and references should apply. Just another thought, should you be cautious if a carrier begins to broker more and more of their own freight? Could that be an indication that they having difficulty keeping their own fleet on the road? Again, just food for thought.
 
Hey Loaders,

I'm a carrier, and these days I don't feel any more at ease when dealing with another carrier vs. a broker. I have had more trouble getting paid from carriers lately than I have with brokers, so I have to agree with you on that.
 
Loaders -- excellent point. Based on the submissions on this website one could argue that MOST of the payment problems that exist in our industry are carrier to "carrier" and NOT broker to carrier. Just because a company runs trucks --whether the trucks are O/O or company owned --does not mean they pay their bills promptly. What is the logic behind assuming an asset based company is somehow more credit worthy than a non-asset based company? Can someone explain that one?
 
This is a great topic. I too am a carrier operating for over 20 years. I deal with direct shippers as well as 3pl's and load brokers. Prior to the wonderful world of internet based load boards we actually made an attempt to know who we were dealing with. Now it appears many trucking companies only have the internet as a source of freight. Due to the tough times we find ourselves in we have significantly reduced our customer base in-order to ensure we get paid in a timely manner. Carriers need to slow down a little bit and thoroughly investigate their customers, the same for brokers using new carriers. If you do not have the business volume to keep your trucks rolling you have to ask yourself is it worth taking freight from unknowns. We as carriers MUST adjust to the changing times by reducing our fleets to match our customer demands. This is why Owner Operators exist allowing fleets to easily adjust for peaks and valleys. Do your due diligence when dealing with new clients, make the first shipment C.O.D. in order to allow time to thoroughly investigate who you are dealing with. Finally use this site !!! It is in no doubt one of the best sources to protect your best interest. I will be sending Inside Transport a check to help keep this site going I suggest all of you do the same as it is only a matter of time before information from this site saves your bacon. Sorry for the long rant.........
 
The problem is carriers should not be brokering or giving other carriers loads without being properly licensed at all if your a broker then you are a broker if your a carrier then...you guessed it your a carrier. And these days i don't trust anyone i don't know.
 
Truckit, you are absolutely correct with your comment about carriers using the load boards as their only source of freight. This creates a situation where you will hardly, if ever, develop the kind of relationship with a shipper that is essential for success. Certainly there will be beneficial relationships built with some load brokers, but the bulk of any carriers business should be with actual shippers, a few select people that hopefully will be around for a few years and that you can grow your business with. Freight obtained from a broker should be used to augment your operation, fill in some blanks, get you to or from where your own freight is, NOT be the sole source of your business. As a broker, my firm has some very good, long term relationships with quite a few carriers and we will continue to assist them in any way we can, whenever we can. Assist is the key word because I would be nervous if a carrier relied on me as his only source of freight.
 
loaders said:
Just a question, but do carriers feel more at ease when they accept a load from another carrier rather than a broker? Does the fact that they own and operate equipment somehow give a false sense of security? Just another thought, should you be cautious if a carrier begins to broker more and more of their own freight? Could that be an indication that they having difficulty keeping their own fleet on the road? Again, just food for thought.
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I have edited your post a little bit but I would like to respond as a carrier. I think we use to feel safe with other carriers because you would see their equipment moving but these days the line to take is trust no one unfortunately. As far as brokering our own freight we have 5 to 10 inbound US loads (that is our own freight) a day that we have to move and with the market the way it is we cannot always get our trucks to where we want so we have to sell more than we would like. I think the best way to survive is to remember not everything is what it seems and due you due dilligence.
 
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