Titanium

Thanks AMA

Just did two partials in the $3000.00 range, they are ripening as we speak.
I was getting a little leary with the negativity in this thread!!
I as one, value your opinion, so I won't worry so much.

Thanks!
 
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Would appreciate any current payment trends or positive/negative dealings with Titanium.

Prompt replies would be greatly appreciated.

Thanking in advance.
 
drc

Just got an e-mail from Paul saying my last check was mailed out last week.
I received the 1st $1500 or so a few weks ago and the check was good.
I believe that put them betwenn 45 and 70 from the date of delivery.
 
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I do a fair amount of work for Titanium and they average 45-50 days, their account is current with me and I have not made a collection call in about a year. Good turn around on my side.
 
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March 1st. invoice still not paid. 90 days excatly. When we called they said we could pick up the cheque if in the neighbourhood. How nice of them.
They will need us before we need them again.:cool:
 
So here is my story on Titanium.

We have 5 o/s invoices with them. Total $2275.00 going back to Aug 10th. On Aug 24th we were given a shipment with them and a separate email instruction to our highway dispatch (not on their confirmation) that this load not be delivered until we heard from them it was ok to do so. Because these instructions were not on their actual confirmation when order entry was imputting order these instructions where not carried foward onto our order and our local dispatch delivered freight without proper knowledge.

In our defense the specific instructions on their load sheet say the the load MUST delivered by Aug 24th. Which is was delivered Aug 24th exactly. What we failed to do was to add the separate notes from the separate email between the 2 dispatchers.

Moving forward a few weeks, we called to get payment details at the beginning of Oct and we were told that our whole account was on hold due to this order and us delivering the freight without their consent.

Around and around everyone goes and I finally end up talking to Ted Daniels who tells me that they have taken the freight from their "on hold" customer in in error and then took this second shipment in the hopes of holding it to get paid the $2100.00 that they were owed and because we dropped the ball and delivered the freight now they don't have the leverage they need and we need to take responsibility for our error.

While I agree that we dropped the ball once and if asked would have taken less payment on this particular order only. However they have dropped the ball several times and do not want to take any responsibility for their part what so ever.

First of all they take freight in the first place from one of their "on hold" accounts. Then they broker this out to someone else for them to be responsible for to fix their mistake and don't both to put these instructions on their confirmation and then they decide that they will just hold our whole account, no phone call to discuss or anything. also seems a little fishy that we were given 2 more loads after this to total pretty much exactly what was owed to them from their customer???

After speaking to my partners we decided for principle reasons we are going to go the legal route and see where this all goes. Why should we be totally responsible to cover the cost of their total bad debt with their customer?

We have told them this and his response is that "not only will they defend but also counter claim for costs and differential losses incurred"
 
Wow, now that's a tangled web! You'd think if they were going to hold a customers load for ransom, they could have let you in on the caper. That way you could have decided to be a part of it or not and if you decided to join in then you'd know what the rules of the game were. As long as everything is 'kosher" on the Bill of Lading, you should have no problem getting paid for your services. If you need legal help, contact Scam Chaser, he knows his way aroung the law as it pertains to transportation.
 
Ted is one of the owners. He's also a bean-counter by profession. It doesn't surprise me that he wanted to hold the freight ransom.

But why he didn't load the stuff on his trucks, or park it at his warehouse ... is beyond me.
 
Clarification

Only the company that performed the actual transportation has a lien on the goods in his truck - a broker or carrier acting as a broker has no lien.

This is based on Ont Regs 643/05:

14. Freight Charges
i. If required by the carrier, the freight and all other lawful charges accruing on the goods shall be paid before delivery.

In law, a carrier cannot hold a customer's current shipment for prior unpaid invoices.
 
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theman said:
Hmmm .... it's not like they're out of money, let me put it that way. They must be having an issue with the customer?

I know the owners pretty well ... they are not a skip threat.
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we did a shipment in oct this year, and were paid in 27days...perhaps one of the lucky ones??
 
The problem with Titanium is not getting paid. It's just that they do some funky stuff sometimes that they get others involved with .... that they shouldn't be involved in.

Don't worry about your money. You'll be fine.
 
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