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Any dealings with this company. I have heard some rumblings that they are having financial troubles and are about to go under.
TDS Trucking-Mississauga, Ontario
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There was a thread about their Logistics arm, Royal Blue, but I think the payables issue addressed was strictly limited to Royal Blue and not TDS. I don't believe there were any complaints regarding TDS. We use them quite a bit and they are a great carrier with great people.
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Who isn't these days?
Do a search on Royal Blue.
I haven't heard any complaints about TDS.
Like PackRat I give them a fair amount of freight and they P/U and deliver when they say they will and certainly do not behave like a carrier in trouble.
Do a search on Royal Blue.
I haven't heard any complaints about TDS.
Like PackRat I give them a fair amount of freight and they P/U and deliver when they say they will and certainly do not behave like a carrier in trouble.
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Freightbroker, I'm not sure what's going on with TDS. What have you heard?
Here's the thread on Royal Blue...
http://www.insidetransport.com/payment-terms-credit-history/4723-royal-blue-logistical-services.html
They are owned by the same person, have the same address, same phone numbers... etc...
Here's the thread on Royal Blue...
http://www.insidetransport.com/payment-terms-credit-history/4723-royal-blue-logistical-services.html
They are owned by the same person, have the same address, same phone numbers... etc...
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We use them too ... there is no problem with their service. But their Royal Blue division is obviously undercapitalized.
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Jonny-chicken, I would appreciate if you stop trying to add Royal Blue to every thread concerning TDS. Please also stop saying that Royal Blue and TDS are the same company, as they are not. The owner is indeed the same, but it is run as a seperate company, and the phone numbers are NOT the same. Please stop giving out incorrect info on this site. I, unlike yourself, simply don't have the kind of time you seem to have to post on here everyday, 5 times a day. This thread is concerning TDS Trucking, under the subject carrier relation. You have admitted in your previous posts regarding Royal Blue that TDS has always done a great job moving your freight, according to your dispatch. Please stick to the topic being discussed. TDS Trucking is not in any danger of going under anytime soon, thanks for the concern FreightBroker.
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Red, I don't dispatch for both, although I have in the past. Since you seem to know so much, why did you say that I was the owner's daughter (which I am not), and why did you make DISGUSTING, UNTRUE comments about me ? Why don't you say who you are ?? I think you have me mistaken with a former employee - Jennifer ?? Ask anyone who's been in this industry as long as I have been, over 12 yrs, and they'll let you know who I am. I have been at TDS for almost 6 yrs, and I won't allow rumours to fly, when they're not true. You not revealing who you are sounds a bit "fishy" to me....
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TDS and Service
TDS does a wonderful job for us as a carrier - and we have never had reason to question their integrity regarding service and or as competition from their brokerage division. It is my understanding that while their original basis was as a carrier, Royal Blue was developed for the purpose of brokering - but it has not been fully developed - as being a really good carrier is their main focus and is their real success.
Take the time to stop, pick up the phone, call Jamie, Dan or Matt and hear the pride in their voice. They believe in themselves, the company that they continue to help create, and ask to speak with Frank - he will tell the reason for any delay without question.
TDS does a wonderful job for us as a carrier - and we have never had reason to question their integrity regarding service and or as competition from their brokerage division. It is my understanding that while their original basis was as a carrier, Royal Blue was developed for the purpose of brokering - but it has not been fully developed - as being a really good carrier is their main focus and is their real success.
Take the time to stop, pick up the phone, call Jamie, Dan or Matt and hear the pride in their voice. They believe in themselves, the company that they continue to help create, and ask to speak with Frank - he will tell the reason for any delay without question.
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I think Red should be totally ignored, the site is about doing our best to work together, find the bad companies and share.
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Thanks Nike for the support - we feel the same about you as one of our top brokers to deal with. I hope people realize that we have the same ups and downs as most good carriers, and we just strive to keep our customers (that would be ALL you excellent brokers) happy with our service and integrity. The kind words are appreciated by everyone here !! 
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JamesK,
First of all, if you read through this thread you will see that the 2 posters before me were the first to make the connection with Royal Blue, I simply posted a link to the thread that was being discussed.
Thank you for telling me what you would appreciate. I would appreciate if Royal Blue would pay my company for the work we did back in November of 2009. But that hasn't happened... Here's a solution: How about I get paid for my company's work, and then I stop bringing attention to the fact that your company has not paid me for our work. Pretty simple I think.
As for giving out incorrect info, can you please tell me exactly what you are talking about? Because I think you are now starting to make things up. Please tell me, what incorrect info have I posted here about your company?
Again, I also do not spend my days scouring this website for your company's name, I simply check-in throughout the day to see what is being talked about, like most other users on this site. If I have anything to add to the conversation I do so. Apparently somebody else has said something about TDS Trucking. How about you address their concerns rather than attacking me. You really don't need to make this personal, I am just collecting accounts receivable on behalf of my employer.
Spare me the soap opera!
Thank you.
First of all, if you read through this thread you will see that the 2 posters before me were the first to make the connection with Royal Blue, I simply posted a link to the thread that was being discussed.
Thank you for telling me what you would appreciate. I would appreciate if Royal Blue would pay my company for the work we did back in November of 2009. But that hasn't happened... Here's a solution: How about I get paid for my company's work, and then I stop bringing attention to the fact that your company has not paid me for our work. Pretty simple I think.
As for giving out incorrect info, can you please tell me exactly what you are talking about? Because I think you are now starting to make things up. Please tell me, what incorrect info have I posted here about your company?
Again, I also do not spend my days scouring this website for your company's name, I simply check-in throughout the day to see what is being talked about, like most other users on this site. If I have anything to add to the conversation I do so. Apparently somebody else has said something about TDS Trucking. How about you address their concerns rather than attacking me. You really don't need to make this personal, I am just collecting accounts receivable on behalf of my employer.
Spare me the soap opera!
Thank you.
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Thanks for your reply JamesK. Ooopss, I mean "Blackcat"... Must be a different person...
Thanks for joining the conversation Blackcat, oh, and I can see this is your very first post with Inside Transport, so, welcome to the site as well...
If you are going to help your friend JamesK out by quoting me, at least you could provide the full text and not just cut and paste what you like. For those just joining us, here is the quote the JamesK, I mean Blackcat, is referring to:
"I believe there may be a shell game going on here. Brokers book their freight with a trucking company "TDS" and then that is probably passed on to Royal Blue for double brokering... Just guessing here, I have no evidence of that."
As you can see I stated that I was just guessing, based on the optics of the situation, and I even went so far as to specify that "I have no evidence of that".
Also, in reference to the phone number situation. It does seem strange that the number I have for Royal Blue is 888-566-6686 and as I have stated previously when you call that number the automated system says "thank you for calling TDS Trucking". This number is listed on the Royal Blue website as their "Customer Service" phone number. The website can be found here:
Committed to Leasing Edge Transportation Solutions ROYAL BLUE LOGISTICAL SERVICES
If you work your way through the phone system by pressing 5 for accounting and then pressing 1 for accounts payable, you will be greeted by Antoinella, who does the Accounts Payable for Royal Blue. I didn't set it up this way, I'm just reporting what happens as I try to collect on my bill.
As further indication of the connection between these two companies here is a quote from the same Royal Blue website I mentioned above with the phone number that is answered by TDS.
"TDS Trucking Ltd. is a partner of Royal Blue Logistical Services. TDS Trucking has been in operation since 1999 and has constant and significant growth each year. Together, Royal Blue Logistical Services and TDS Trucking Ltd. highly compliment each other's services and are uncompromised in providing the best the industry can offer."
I trust those that are still bored enough to be reading this from the outside can now see who can and cannot stand by their words.
Thanks for joining the conversation Blackcat, oh, and I can see this is your very first post with Inside Transport, so, welcome to the site as well...
If you are going to help your friend JamesK out by quoting me, at least you could provide the full text and not just cut and paste what you like. For those just joining us, here is the quote the JamesK, I mean Blackcat, is referring to:
"I believe there may be a shell game going on here. Brokers book their freight with a trucking company "TDS" and then that is probably passed on to Royal Blue for double brokering... Just guessing here, I have no evidence of that."
As you can see I stated that I was just guessing, based on the optics of the situation, and I even went so far as to specify that "I have no evidence of that".
Also, in reference to the phone number situation. It does seem strange that the number I have for Royal Blue is 888-566-6686 and as I have stated previously when you call that number the automated system says "thank you for calling TDS Trucking". This number is listed on the Royal Blue website as their "Customer Service" phone number. The website can be found here:
Committed to Leasing Edge Transportation Solutions ROYAL BLUE LOGISTICAL SERVICES
If you work your way through the phone system by pressing 5 for accounting and then pressing 1 for accounts payable, you will be greeted by Antoinella, who does the Accounts Payable for Royal Blue. I didn't set it up this way, I'm just reporting what happens as I try to collect on my bill.
As further indication of the connection between these two companies here is a quote from the same Royal Blue website I mentioned above with the phone number that is answered by TDS.
"TDS Trucking Ltd. is a partner of Royal Blue Logistical Services. TDS Trucking has been in operation since 1999 and has constant and significant growth each year. Together, Royal Blue Logistical Services and TDS Trucking Ltd. highly compliment each other's services and are uncompromised in providing the best the industry can offer."
I trust those that are still bored enough to be reading this from the outside can now see who can and cannot stand by their words.
Jonny-Chicken....I am going to go out on a limb here (as I don't have all day either to read all your posts LOL...reference to several comments above AND some attempt at levity!) but i believe you have been a good contributor to this site and i believe that it is fair that you be paid for the work you have done. However, i think it is a bit of a stretch from you wanting payment for services rendered and writing the whole "shell game" and "double brokering" paragraph. Maybe staying on the actual subject of outstanding accounts receivable would have helped this thread?
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Thank you for your sensible outlook on this PackRat.
I can't blame you for not reading, it is long, and it is boring... And let me tell you, if I had been paid by now you would not be reading anything from me about this. Once I am paid I will move on...
To further explain the comment you are talking about: I was responding to another poster who had said "Holy Crap!!! This is a revelation for me. So is TDS interconnected any further to Royal Blue other than being owned by the same guy? I mean, do they feed each other freight or is it a shell game?"
So, someone else brought up the whole "shell game" talk and yes, I responded with what I believed I saw possibly happening. In retrospect, I would say that you are correct, I should not have helped to move the conversation from non-payment over to double-brokering as it is nothing to do with my goal (getting paid) and nothing to do with the category of the thread (Payment Terms/Credit History).
Your comment is well-warranted and I appreciate your balanced view.
The interesting part of all this is that many on here have said plenty worse about Royal Blue than I, but for some reason my comments have been looked at under a microscope. Really people, I just want my company to be paid, it's my job to collect these overdue accounts.
Now, will somebody at Royal Blue please pay me for the work my company did back in November of 2009?
I can't blame you for not reading, it is long, and it is boring... And let me tell you, if I had been paid by now you would not be reading anything from me about this. Once I am paid I will move on...
To further explain the comment you are talking about: I was responding to another poster who had said "Holy Crap!!! This is a revelation for me. So is TDS interconnected any further to Royal Blue other than being owned by the same guy? I mean, do they feed each other freight or is it a shell game?"
So, someone else brought up the whole "shell game" talk and yes, I responded with what I believed I saw possibly happening. In retrospect, I would say that you are correct, I should not have helped to move the conversation from non-payment over to double-brokering as it is nothing to do with my goal (getting paid) and nothing to do with the category of the thread (Payment Terms/Credit History).
Your comment is well-warranted and I appreciate your balanced view.
The interesting part of all this is that many on here have said plenty worse about Royal Blue than I, but for some reason my comments have been looked at under a microscope. Really people, I just want my company to be paid, it's my job to collect these overdue accounts.
Now, will somebody at Royal Blue please pay me for the work my company did back in November of 2009?
Yes...I believe the chronology of the thread is a little difficult with the one removed by Admin for the personal attack that took place and now not seen makes it hard for people that have not been following it to understand there is a response to a reply that is not visible anymore....as i am typing this all i can think is....Holy Crap....let's move on! LOL
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I heard a rumour that they've re-branded themselves as Jaguar Transportation?
Can anyone confirm this?
Can anyone confirm this?
I wonder why anyone would use 'Jaguar' in a company name...there are already a few of them out there and not all good.