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Another Brampton "carrier" dispatching from a house. Tried to book a load with several partials going to Duluth MN/ Belleville IL/ Midlothian TX, when questioned couldn't figure out why he was pairing these partials on the same "truck."
MC shows since April 2021 no inspections, 1 truck, references are Landstar and CH Robinson...
I told him we didn't want to use him and he became hostile wouldn't listen, couldn't explain why he was pairing these drops, then sent this email to my dispatch:
In all fairness I did ask how he didn't know where Duluth MN was after she miled everything and emailed it to him.


From: SAS Transport <sastransport010@gmail.com>
Sent: June-30-21 9:25 AM
To:
Subject: Re: carrier package



Hi



Whoever you put on the line with me was very rude. Sorry, we don't do business with "ASSHOLES"
 
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duke22 said:
Another Brampton "carrier" dispatching from a house. Tried to book a load with several partials going to Duluth MN/ Belleville IL/ Midlothian TX, when questioned couldn't figure out why he was pairing these partials on the same "truck."
MC shows since April 2021 no inspections, 1 truck, references are Landstar and CH Robinson...
I told him we didn't want to use him and he became hostile wouldn't listen, couldn't explain why he was pairing these drops, then sent this email to my dispatch:
In all fairness I did ask how he didn't know where Duluth MN was after she miled everything and emailed it to him.


From: SAS Transport <sastransport010@gmail.com>
Sent: June-30-21 9:25 AM
To:
Subject: Re: carrier package



Hi



Whoever you put on the line with me was very rude. Sorry, we don't do business with "ASSHOLES"
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I want to know why the " " for the word. What does that mean?
 
I don't believe this is an actual trucking company, I don't believe he has an actual truck. That is the written equivalent of air quotations I guess.
 
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Save yourself the headache and do not use. I did not find this thread when I looked earlier. Picked up a day early and delivered a day late on a LTL shipment that a full load rate was paid.
 
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10'22 another team here booked them and they refused to send the PARS info for the shipment after it was loaded. Whatever these guys with their "5 trucks" are doing is not good, their safety score is rough on FMCSA, only 1 truck and trailer inspected looks like a 53' step on the US side. :Last inspection Feb '23
 
Charged 300 extra CDN for hauling steel bars 55 feet long, that's 2 feet legal overhang, ( most bars were 30-40 feet and only one was past 53 feet )

Will call you 5 times in an hour and tell you he's leaving site if you don't pay for his imaginary permits
 

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Depends on the configuration and lane, could require a single trip.

Also, could pay his driver differently based on dims (legal vs "OD") . Not defending the guy, company, service or tactic - just pointing out.. did you book it as a legal load & all of a sudden there is a magical 55' piece you negated to tell him about?
 
We booked it as legal load, because 2 feet overhang is legal and does not require any permits within Ontarion and Quebec.

Lane is Milton to Longueuil.
 
Are you sure? It was always my understanding that there is no overhang allowed on 53’ trailers. Granted, I am pretty much out of the latest legislation, but it might be worth checking.
 
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I am also under the impression this would be a permitted shipment. However, I could be wrong as well. That overhang rule only applied on 48ft trailers, max of 4ft overhang (if I recall. Been 10 years since I ran trucks of my own).
 
Whether you “own” trucks or not, as a freight broker you are selling a service that should include at a bare minimum, some basic transportation knowledge. Especially once you get into flatbed shipments. Vans are pretty straightforward, you can’t make them any longer or wider. In addition to not providing the proper information to your clients, this oversight could be interpreted by some carriers as yet another example of an inexperienced freight broker dabbling in an area where he doesn’t belong. Please don’t take my comments as useless criticism, they are not intended as such. As a freight broker myself, with over 33 years experience, I want nothing more than to see my industry prosper and all its members to display the highest levels of professionalism and integrity. Take this experience as a learning exercise. There will be many more to come and they will make make your operation better as a result. There is no such thing as knowing too much! There endeth the lesson.
 
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I do agree with you, but based on all the resources I’ve checked, including ON and QC regulations, I’m confident that I’m right. I’ve asked around, used Google, and AIs, and checked with my team. With all this information, I’m pretty sure I have it right. That said, I can’t argue with the truck owners, as I’m sure they know better.
 
This isn’t the first time I’ve hauled this load with overhang, and nobody has asked for permit charges besides SAS, which says something.

If you have any information that proves my point wrong, feel free to share it with me.
 
Max Broker said:
This isn’t the first time I’ve hauled this load with overhang, and nobody has asked for permit charges besides SAS, which says something.

If you have any information that proves my point wrong, feel free to share it with me.
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My understanding of the rule is that you need a permit. BUT it's an annual permit and most of the FB's guys who haul steel regularly have it.

I haven't ran beams in 7-8 years but when I did, we'd get the odd guy who would bitch and complain about the overhang not being legal and we had one of our regulars explain it to us.
 
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