Rush International

Rob

Rob

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:mad:Here is a real peice of work for you.:mad:

Yesterday I called a Rush posting against my better judgement as I know they are over a hundred days to pay. So I call on some freight they have out of the south coming into Ontario. It is an LTL that he wants next day expidite service on. This tells me knowing the town it was going to who the freight was for so I called them(I also work for them direct) and they said that they were not paying on this one the shipper was so I called the shipper (this all took about 30 minutes to find out) By the time I get the shipper on the phone she has gave the freight to a US broker (this is where Rush comes in) She (the US broker) had posted it on some US load board and Rush called and promised her the moon and wanted to sell it for $1000 less than he had it booked for. I explained this story to the nice US broker and have the freight on the truck direct from the US broker sorry Rush no DOM this weekend on the back of an honest carrier!!!!:D:D

This is not the first time I have suspected this with Rush but I caught him red handed this time.
 
Anyone had any more dealings with this company? If so, tell me what you have to do to get paid from them? I think there is 1 female and 2 males in this office and they all have multiple personality's, Every time you call or get transfered there is a different person on the phone and he sounds just like the guy you spoke with 10 seconds earlier. to top it off they use their imaginary courier called couriers are us to send your check that never arrives. what a joke.
 
Thanks Faey, but I have spoke with each personality over there about 10 times already, I need a list of suppliers or customers that they deal with.
 
Double brokered a load on me! Came to light today about a load from last September. Told me it was his truck, pod provided said Rush. Carrier surfacing for payment from my customer now. Carrier's pod has their name on it and Rush used white out on the carrier name and inserted theirs. Any ideas how to proceed?
 
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Altering a POD / BOL is fraud isn't it? A Bill of Lading is a legal document I believe.

Some of the forum members (Scam Chaser among others) are more well heeled in this sort of thing. But if it were me... I'd be speaking with my lawyer.
 
I was at a Shaw Alliance user conference last year and the guy who runs Shaw Alliance and also GPSnet (the expedite load board in the U.S.) made a pointed comparison between another company called Rush and these cats, adding that the one in Concord was "bad" and do not use.
 
Nawk said:
Altering a POD / BOL is fraud isn't it? A Bill of Lading is a legal document I believe.

Some of the forum members (Scam Chaser among others) are more well heeled in this sort of thing. But if it were me... I'd be speaking with my lawyer.
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Here is the scenario:

[1] Bill of lading is issued at carrier's request (not shipper's), and is often interpreted as a receipt for goods. It is sometime referred to as a contract of carriage which implies more than "a receipt". Back to the bill of lading, it is signed between the shipper and the carrier. Typically, it is that document the the consignee signs as "receiving in good order" and presumably the carrier's name still appears on the document.The "whiting out" of the carrier's name occurs after both the shipping dept of the shipper and the receiving copy of the consignee have received unaltered documents.

The whiteing out of the carrier's name by the broker when invoicing is not an alteration that would be integral to the invoicing function. The carriage at this point has terminated. The broker is doing it for reasons of confidentiality. It would be different if it involved a "rebrokering" situation as the intent there would be to hide a breach of contract - namely no-rebrokering.

If the broker had changed the number of pieces, that would be a misrepresentation that depending on the effect of the change, may constitute fraud.

To pursue any action, be it contract or tort, there must be injury to the aggrieved party; otherwise there is no cause of action, and the alteration is a moot point.
 
so pretty much unless you didn't get paid when a load was "double-brokered" you don't have any recourse? right?

So if someone double-brokers but is good at paying his carrier then he won't get caught and if he does he did nothing wrong in the carrier's eyes so to speak?
 
So then, we accept the fact we were mis-led that Rush moved the freight and double Brokered the shipment. I guess then the funds for the carrier that did the work are in Rush's "TRUST ACCOUNT"?
 
fOR SAFETY'S SAKE

May I suugest that the following practice used in the Construction industry should apply.

When making final payment to a particular contractor, we were requested to have the primary contractor sign a document certifying that all payments to sub contractors carrying out work under our original contract be paid.
No signed document = no check

Again if the contractor seemed finacially unstable , we requested proof of payment.

Undersatndibly we had to deal with a builders lien that contractors had at their disposal.

I would suggest you simply apply that principle.

Certain freight brokers that rely on payment from their clients before they pay you (which really is none of your business), would have to look into some for of financing in ordre to operate accordindgly.
 
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