Proposed Speed Limiters In U.S.

My question is a 10 mph difference over what? The speed limit is 62 mph (100 kph) on a 400 series highway. Are you advocating that trucks exceed the posted speed limit?
Granted they all do anyways, however, if you are dispatching at 70+ miles an hour, you have more problems than can be solved here.
Besides that if your insurance company ever comes to that conclusion, your rates are going to go through the roof.
 
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more and more states are increasing their speed limits to 70 mph and higher.

The point you're missing is that a truck which is capable of operations at the speed limits posted in many many states can average and legally log 65mph or better in many cases.

While the unfortunate driver who is stuck at logging a maximum of 60mph burns up more hours in their log while covering less miles per day.

For example. I-80... a regular lane for a number of carriers



Nevada..Utah...Wyoming...Nebraska.a combined 1500 miles and. all states that can be legally logged at 70mph by trucks not limited.

More miles driven per day and less hours logged = more $$$$ to the driver.
 
My question is a 10 mph difference over what? The speed limit is 62 mph (100 kph) on a 400 series highway. Are you advocating that trucks exceed the posted speed limit?
Granted they all do anyways, however, if you are dispatching at 70+ miles an hour, you have more problems than can be solved here.
Besides that if your insurance company ever comes to that conclusion, your rates are going to go through the roof.

Michael, Ontario isn't the ONLY jurisdiction in North America.. they don't get to regulate speed limits in other provinces or states.

That said.. the majority of the country is 110km/hr. In parts of B.C 120km
hr

The majority of U.S. have speed limits that are 70 mph or greater for trucks.

31/48 states...
 
more miles does not equate to more profit was the point that was being made

more MPG = more PROFIT
But less miles turned because speed limiters require lower speeds to be logged hence burning up more hours = less profit to the driver.

Now if drivers were to be paid hourly for all driving time it would make this arguement a moot point....

Hell...we could get great fuel mileage running @ 80km/hr

So..which carrier wants to be the first to step up to the plate and pay their drivers hourly for all long distance driving..
 
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Shakey is 110% correct. I will (and do) pay my drivers extra for the fuel they save, and at they end of the day they are not all beat up and whipped because they were travelling at (what I consider) excessive speeds. That kind of concentration, for hours on end, takes its toll on a driver. If you are a driver, you know that is true.
I'm well aware of what other provinces and states do. Eighty percent of my business is beyond Ontario's borders. I used Ontario as an example. Traffic always travels above the speed limit ... always. So now you have a more difficult problem. In states where the speed limit is 70 mph, one can safely assume that traffic will flow at 80 mph without consequence. The problem is, trucks were never designed to go 80 mph. Numerous speed studies have been done by truck makers, their parts suppliers, insurance companies, and regulators. Do a Google search and check them out. One of the more disturbing studies indicates that at 80 mph, in a panic stop situation, brakes (drum & shoe type) actually begin to fade before the truck is stopped. Add to that your tires are actually out of round at 80 mph, and you have the makings of a disaster.
Even if none of that convinces you that higher speeds are not a good idea, at least consider this ... should a catastrophic event occur at 80 mph, your driver will surely die. Do you really want to call his wife and kids and tell them that their husband and father isn't coming home anymore?

Since I wrote most of this before your last post, I'll answer your last question here ... The EOBR, what I firmly believe to be the great equalizer, will drive driver wages up one way or another. Because that driver is out there on their own and real-time productivity cannot be adequately monitored (at this time), hourly wages are not likely to happen, but increased wages, in one form or another, is a surety.
 
Lol well good luck to many carriers with their driver search then.
As I said earlier, this does nothing to encourage drivers to either enter or stay in the industry.

That's the ongoing problem with this industry. Everyone wants it done cheaper but aren't willing to pay the price to those who actually perform the work.
It constantly falls onto the backs of the drivers to take the brunt of the hit.

Fyi.. never had any equipment failure issues due to running 72mph for years and years back and forth from California to Toronto.
 
Shakey I know many drivers who hate this 'new' way of 'forced' operating.

Between the 14/16 hour 'window' rules and electronic logs drivers are now pressured to maximize their drive time on a daily basis just to maintain what they used to make.

Sorry but those in my circle almost all agree that the days when we ran 72mph were much less stressful than dealing with the idiots out there these days
 
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@snafu ... So I'm assuming you were, if not still, a truck driver. On a guess I would say somewhere between 50 and 60 years old? The biggest loss to the industry today is that I can't hire "you" anymore ... at any price. "You" simply don't exist anymore. They aren't making any more of "you". By "you" I am referring to the old school driver. The ones that believe in an honest day's work for an honest day's pay, the ones that actually have a work ethic, the ones that know there is no such thing as a free lunch.
As carriers, we have to deal with the generation of driver today, and look towards the next generation of driver for tomorrow. They certainly are not clones of "you", and frankly I'm not even sure they come from the same planet, but those are the cards we have been dealt.
I am glad that you never had a problem running at 72 mph, and if you're still driving, I wish you continued good luck, and good fortune. You're the last of a bred, wear it with pride :)
 
Correct on all counts @Michael Ludwig lol.

But I guess that's part of the problem..

Us older guys who simply 'git er done' without the need to be babysat are the same guys many today are afraid to hire because we don't necessarily buy in to the gospel that this new generation is being indoctrinated with.
 
OK uncle I tried

more money in your pocket should be your goal not fighting the system (insert Michael's quote from his wall here)

Cheers
Shakey
Shakey I've always believed that one has to stand up and fight for one's principles and beliefs.

Sometimes it puts me on the opposite side from the politically correct stance and on occasion cost me financially in the short term but hey.. that's just life.

If we don't stand up we get ran over..
 
More appropriately, never lay down :)

In fairness, you're the kind of guy I want to hire ... there just isn't many of you left !!! There isn't any need for you to buy into anything. Whether or not you believe the changes to the system are good or bad is neither here nor there. Only time will tell if you were right or wrong. As one that hires drivers, what I do need from the old guard is for them to adapt to the new system and use it to their advantage.
If the old adage that knowledge is power is true, and I believe it is, then old school drivers have an awful lot of power ;)
 
Lol very true Michael. Some of us old school drivers with specialized knowledge do have power.
I remind someone of that each year on the anniversary of my start date when it's time to negotiate the pay rate for the upcoming year ;)

Time for me to get some work done or the real boss, mrs snafu will have my ass.

Have a good one!


 
Shakey I've always believed that one has to stand up and fight for one's principles and beliefs.

Sometimes it puts me on the opposite side from the politically correct stance and on occasion cost me financially in the short term but hey.. that's just life.

If we don't stand up we get ran over..

can't blame you and don't for what you believe in
 
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A few more words if I may..

The biggest problem is not a speed , but lack of thinking ahead and attention while driving .. Too many people ( a.k.a. drivers ) don't know how to " read a road "...Most accidents happen when cars moving in " clusters " and too close to each other not leaving enough room and time for reaction.. Yea, I know , we all know that..

So, by travelling slighter slower than general traffic , I keep myself out of those " clusters " and , what is more important, I still have speed reserve to pass or avoid a problem..And that besides all other stuff we already discussed..

Keep it safe..