Overwidth on flatbed

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Could someone please tell me exactly what is considered overwidth and when you need permits? We have always kept our loads under 8-1/2' wide but we have drivers grumbling about seeing other companies hauling 9' wide loads without any signs of an oversize load (or permits).
WHEN do you need a permit and signage?

Thanks for your expertise!!
 
Hope this helps a little
In the United States an oversize load is a vehicle and/or load that is wider than 8 ft 6 in (2.59 m). Each individual state has different requirements regarding height and length (most states are 13 ft 6 in or 4.11 m tall), and a driver must purchase a permit for each state he/she will be traveling through. In many states, a load must be considered "nondivisible" to qualify for a permit (e.g., an object which cannot be broken down into smaller pieces), although some states allow divisible loads to be granted permits.[1]
 
102" is the max without permits...I believe some states don't require "wide load" signage until you hit 9 or 10 feet so your grumbly drivers have probably seen guys who have permits but no signs
 
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Thanks VERY much!! Permits for anything over 102" but not necessarily the signage. You should all be working for MTO - your answers made much more sense. ;)
 
Try this, Provincial or 400 series hwys & QEW and a few other hwys will require wide or oversized signs along with flags for anything over 102" wide. If you stay on regional roads and have a regional wide load permit it may only require 4flags on loads up to 10'ft wide, depending on the Region.
 
Thanks bubba-one. These flatbeds are on Hwy 417, 400 and Hwy 11 in Ontario - concrete that is about 9' wide with no flags or signs. I'm wondering if they are taking a chance doing it - 3" on either side of the trailer isn't very obvious unless you are looking for it. What do you think?
 
Hauling_ass, I know some carriers some bother with the permits, some are taking a chance.
Had a shipment once that was 103'' wide. People were trying to get me to find a carrier without permit, cause cheaper.

No freaking way will I call my carriers and ask for someone to be illegal.

If some wants to try themselves, fine. Not me!
 
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Huge THANK YOU to everyone!
We are too scared of the MTO to do anything illegal but I was beginning to wonder whether we were turning down freight when we would have been okay. Turns out we were doing the right thing.
misto27 - glad to know there are some ethical brokers in this business.
 
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