Titanium is a 'stalking horse' kind of buyer. Any company they buy is in some sort of distress. For instance, when they bought Muskoka it was a choice of take the offer or close the doors. The only thing about them (Titanium) is they don't actually wait for the company to go broke. So they would buy the company for what would not amount to a hell of a lot when the debt is netted out. You can see what Titanium has paid only by looking at financial statements and watching the money ... it doesn't get publicized.