International Students working as truck drivers

My Stepdad was born in Malaysia, his parents were middle class. They did without a lot of things in order to send ALL of their children to foreign universities. Albert went to the UK and became an engineer before moving to Canada and meeting my mother. He followed the rules as set out by the countries he immigrated to throughout his life. He paid his taxes, he worked hard, he saved for retirement and now collects CPP after contributing to the system for 20 years.

Following the the rules has it's rewards is all I'm saying. Lying to the government no matter what about is never a good idea.

Keep well,
Mike
 
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You're right, that's a powerful statement:
“I’ve never seen a case where an OPP officer takes it upon themselves to do their own immigration investigation into whether someone is working the allotted hours under a student permit,”
 
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You're right, that's a powerful statement:
“I’ve never seen a case where an OPP officer takes it upon themselves to do their own immigration investigation into whether someone is working the allotted hours under a student permit,”


So true.. their investigative interest for the most part ends with "do you know how fast you were going?"
 
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This story could get very complicated. First of all, I feel that the OPP had no jurisdiction in this Immigration matter. How he got arrested on the spot is very surprising to me. I know that Immigration Canada is not a government agency to be underestimated when it comes to enforcing the law, either. For example, if you come to Canada on a Tourist Visa and are found to be working, not only will you be obliged to leave, you will also not likely be allowed to return. If you come on any sort of Visa and overstay your welcome, the same is likely true. We all know this. I imagine this young man is bright and hard working, however, he came to Canada on a Student Visa, not a Work Visa. He is bright enough to have understood the rules and also the consequences for breaking the rules. I am quite sure he signed a contract acknowledging these very rules. Now, that is the legal side of things. But here is the human element that comes into play. He is a student. He is trying to make ends meet. He made a mistake. If not everyone knows this, Immigration enforcement in other countries varies. For example, my daughter went to Brazil for 3 months to accompany her now husband while he finished his studies. She renewed her Visa for an additional 3 months and then stayed on for an additional 9 months without a Visa. In Brazil this is called an "Adminstrative issue and nothing is done aside from charging a fine. Of course, she investigated all of this before she stayed on for the additional 9 months. But my point is, that many countries around the world look at these issues in a different light. Some countries strictly enforce the conditions of Visas, others don't. I believe that Canada should. But we have to remember that people from around the world come to Canada with different cultural backgrounds and different experiences in their homelands. That is what makes us so vibrant as a country. It is possible that because this story has become so public, Immigration will have to decide whether to send a strong message of deterrence to the public and deport him, or reprimand him at the very least. We have all made mistakes and we all continue to make them. It would be a sad day in Canadian precedent to see a spectacle made of him. I am sure many foreign students are doing the same, but fly under the radar and get by just fine until they graduate. I would also like to address the company that hired him. Shame on them! Firstly, was he driving with a legitimate license? How did he get hired? This is where I think the heavy handed response should come into play. If he was driving a commercial vehicle without the proper training or qualifications, there is a bigger problem on hand. I would be in favour of investigating the company he was driving for. They should be held accountable for hiring a worker to do a job they know he is not legally entitled to do, if this is the case. I think I find this more infuriating than the student's mistake. This is a long ramble for the Friday of a long weekend. Sorry!
 
Well said Chica,
Lets all remember that unless you are Native Canadian, we all came from somewhere else to this beautiful country. I have on one side on my family it was my grand parents and on the other it was 4 generations.

We are all blessed to be here.
Mike
 
I cannot help but wonder what some of the comments would be if the young man had been Phil Smith from England, or Rob Scott from Australia, instead of Jobandeep Sandhu from Punjab. Just curious.
I posted this to simply point out a problem in our industry - it didn't matter who it was. It was to get people talking. As some has suggested, how are they getting the commercial license? Are they getting it in another province where there is no cost or is the driver on an international license? If an international license, are they even qualified for commercial driving? Maybe an international license is how the officer identified to look further into the reported persons visa.

I believe that some large carriers are taking advantage of this under-enforced law and thus taking advantage of the students and the lack of industry oversight that could end up with another black eye for our industry.
 
You'd be surprised as to what international students pay in tuition compared to those of us that are born here which makes tuition for us domestic students much cheaper in the end. That being said I can see how it may be hard to balance all of that especially with a lot of these families selling land and taking out huge loans to send kids out here. However, I do think that rules are in place for a reason and should be followed, but I still do not think that the punishment is fit. As some of you have said, if the young fellow was not of South Asian descent the situation may have been viewed and handled differently.
 
My personal 2 cents worth is that was either one seriously racist-a$$ cop looking to make name for his or her self, or someone dropped a dime on the poor kid, or company he worked for.

There's no question though that the kid was in the wrong, working outside of his visa stipulations, but as someone said earlier, the punishment certainly does not fit the crime. If he is deported, he will be banned from entering Canada for a very, very long time, if not forever.

In the meantime, how easy is it for a Haitian "refugee" from the US to get into Canada?
Doesn't make a whole lot of sense does it?
 
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There's no question though that the kid was in the wrong, working outside of his visa stipulations, but as someone said earlier, the punishment certainly does not fit the crime. If he is deported, he will be banned from entering Canada for a very, very long time, if not forever.

Which is the part that really sucks, if he gets deported that is a lot of money wasted on his parent's end, if the kid is trying to go to school as well, shouldn't it be apparent that truck driving is not his career goal but rather just a way to help pay for his education?

I'll put this into perspective, I'm a part-time university student doing a few courses in accounting. On average for a class, I probably pay around $500 and so this summer semester I was curious and asked a fellow classmate who just happened to be an international student what his tuition and fees were like for them. He went on to tell me that for the same class we were taking together he was paying $1400, which is a ton more than what yourself and I would pay, so he may not be getting taxed in the way we are but he's definitely paying his dues one way or another.