G Roch

Never dealt with them but funny thing is that our factoring company has them at an avg of 25 days to pay and their Equifax looks great!
Usually the double brokers we have had run-ins with have bad equifax or they don't pay their invoices (Ram Western Express, for example).
G Roch knows how to play the game well.........
On the Link it shows their name as G Roch Consultants Ltd. I don't know many consultants that have their own trucks.........
 
Have used them a few times. They are cheap. They always double broker from Landstar. They think it is good business practice. We have always been paid, but are on our do not use list.
 
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no they take the loads from get loaded.com. and that is the fact and i have proof go see on the web site and go see the transport compagnies and you see them:D
 
Co Brokering

Had truck break down in Greensboro NC friday am. Had to give back planned return due to not knowing time delay caused by repair. Posted full load back to Mtl.
Phone went off the hook.

Got several carriers offering the same load. Spoke to several US brokers that admitted they had G Roch and Rockman helping them find trucks to pull the load.
Spoke to GRoch, they answer the Phone as G roch/ Crystal. Fasciciously, I asked to speak to Crystal and they actually have someone there called Crystal.

I knew that afew minutes later I would get a call from the Originating Freight broker.

In the end I took a load directly from CON WAY Multimodal for decent money, they even picked up the load and brought it to their terminal to make sure it would get to Montreal on time.

Must have been a shortage of trucks in the area!!
 
Pretty tight area for trucks for sure.

Wow... that's not cool. Definitely not a co-broker thing. Co-broker means an exclusive brokering right ... not taking off of one load board and posting to another.
 
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Spoke to several US brokers that admitted they had G Roch and Rockman helping them find trucks to pull the load.
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the sad thing in this is that you know and are fully aware that the US Brokers were letting them help them and all was good, yet you still complain.

On this site brokers can do no right, you guys always find a way to complain about them even when all is legit and agreed upon before hand...
 
If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...

I'm not a broker so "Co-Brokering" is out for me. But being a transport company maybe I can start booking freight and "Co-Transporting" it. That would be okay, wouldn't it?
 
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the sad thing in this is that you know and are fully aware that the US Brokers were letting them help them and all was good, yet you still complain.

On this site brokers can do no right, you guys always find a way to complain about them even when all is legit and agreed upon before hand...
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Roca I believe you missed the point. There are some awesome brokers out there, we have no issues with the honest ones. It becomes another issue when a load broker competes with trucking companies for freight from a freight broker and then tries to call me to offer me the load. I take issue with that.

CANADIAN TRUCKING WATCHDOG 2010 EDITION: How does G Roch Consultant legitimize unethical double-brokering, they rename it co-brokering and publish articles like this one.
 
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and the fact that they pay on time, actually pretty quick, 7-14 days I believe, still makes them a bad broker?

So lets list it;

- they co-broker with full authorization of the US broker
- they pay in 7-14 days, no delays
- been around since 1978

so how do I start my own brokerage and make you guys happy?

that was my point... When the carrier accepts the rate when negociated all should be good, even if it is cheap, if you say "Yes" then you are creating your own monster when bashing brokers...

and I do agree that some double broker, won't list them we all know them, but also others do it all legit and still get bashed...
 
Then why do they book freight under Krystel Transport using a carrier authority and then turn it over to G Roch and claim to be co-brokering?
 
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But Roca a double broker is a double broker is a double broker. I don't see where you would draw the line. I agree if a carrier accepts a bad rate live with it....don't complain. But why would I agree that this double broker is okay because they are open about it? They are taking a piece of the pie that should go to the trucking company. Buy some trucks I'm sure your opinion would change. Brokers and Carriers get bashed about the same on this site.
 
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Then why do they book freight under Krystel Transport using a carrier authority and then turn it over to G Roch and claim to be co-brokering?
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As far as I know they have not booked a load under the Krystel name in a long time, like 5-10 years...
 
Then go ahead and deal with them. If you don't mind hauling freight minus 30-40% of it's original value. I am not sure how long you will survive under these circumstances but you don't seem to care. Like they say, it takes all kinds. If you want my honest opinion, I believe the hand that feeds you has also corrupted you but that's my personal opinion. We'll have to agree to disagree!


BTW, do you give freight to G Roch or haul their freight?
 
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I'm guessing he or she is GRoch because nobody in their right mind would stick up for them rate cutting double brokering whores. Oops excuse me that was not correct, they are co brokering whores.......
 
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What happens to a load if it gets damaged by the transporter lets say, and the insurrance companies decide not to honor their politics because of the co-brokering?

It's complicated when there is more than 1 insurance company involved in such an act, what happens if there are 3 parties involved?

Is it uncommon to see insurers wipe their hands clean of such an event?

Just being curious of this co-brokering bs.
 
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the actual carrier is liable, no broker can be liable... in theory, sometimes deep pockets change that...
 
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