Fuel Costs and who is to blame?

looking for IL to AB- carriers looking for 6800-7500
That's because nothing comes out of AB unless it's on rail. The truck has to make enough drive out of the freight desert and someplace where there is freight - usually back to IL. You can wait for days out there and pay your driver to do nothing which doesn't work either.

It makes sense - 1600 miles - Chicago to Edmonton. Then drive back is 3200 miles. 3200 X 2.00 per mile = $6400.00. At $2.00 per mile that carrier is under cutting the rate.
 
That's because nothing comes out of AB unless it's on rail. The truck has to make enough drive out of the freight desert and someplace where there is freight - usually back to IL. You can wait for days out there and pay your driver to do nothing which doesn't work either.

It makes sense - 1600 miles - Chicago to Edmonton. Then drive back is 3200 miles. 3200 X 2.00 per mile = $6400.00. At $2.00 per mile that carrier is under cutting the rate.
AB is brutal - so yes the rate makes complete sense .. FYI my truck just fueled in Michigan City IN - $5.34/gallon USD
 
That's because nothing comes out of AB unless it's on rail. The truck has to make enough drive out of the freight desert and someplace where there is freight - usually back to IL. You can wait for days out there and pay your driver to do nothing which doesn't work either.

It makes sense - 1600 miles - Chicago to Edmonton. Then drive back is 3200 miles. 3200 X 2.00 per mile = $6400.00. At $2.00 per mile that carrier is under cutting the rate.
actually getting 3/mile out of Alberta lots of work out there last 3 months but do agree it is usually a dead zone for freight.
 
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Very odd, i'm in Calgary and struggling to find trucks for the last couple months. thanks for the feedback all the same. nice to have a platform
 
Brokers are going to be out for blood when this market swings in their favour. Hopefully, These Brown town guys are putting money aside for the eventual downswing.
 
Most of the smaller carriers I deal with don't understand fuel surcharge

We have an all in rate with many carriers -- base + FSC but not broken out, adjusted as needed.

Fuel went up 25% so they add 25% to the all in rate and say this is the new rate.

They need to go back to last rate adjustment, back out FSC at that time to find the base rate then add the new FSC.

This is a very different number and convincing them of this is nearly impossible because "diesel is over $5.00 per gallon brother"

I'm paying carriers based on the new FSC while still trying to get rate adjustments from customers, possibly looking at 1+ weeks of negative margins depending on the account.
 
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So now the fuel is through the roof. Brokers need to get it together and realize cheap freight movement is long gone. We as carriers need to be paid for the loads
 
Most of the smaller carriers I deal with don't understand fuel surcharge

We have an all in rate with many carriers -- base + FSC but not broken out, adjusted as needed.

Fuel went up 25% so they add 25% to the all in rate and say this is the new rate.

They need to go back to last rate adjustment, back out FSC at that time to find the base rate then add the new FSC.

This is a very different number and convincing them of this is nearly impossible because "diesel is over $5.00 per gallon brother"

I'm paying carriers based on the new FSC while still trying to get rate adjustments from customers, possibly looking at 1+ weeks of negative margins depending on the account.

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I feel this
 
Most of the smaller carriers I deal with don't understand fuel surcharge

We have an all in rate with many carriers -- base + FSC but not broken out, adjusted as needed.

Fuel went up 25% so they add 25% to the all in rate and say this is the new rate.

They need to go back to last rate adjustment, back out FSC at that time to find the base rate then add the new FSC.

This is a very different number and convincing them of this is nearly impossible because "diesel is over $5.00 per gallon brother"

I'm paying carriers based on the new FSC while still trying to get rate adjustments from customers, possibly looking at 1+ weeks of negative margins depending on the account.

It really depends on how FSC is applied, I'ev had customers flat out pay a percentage on top of the base rate as FSC. EX: $325.00 +35% ($113.75) FSC= $438.75.

Others apply it as ex. (40% of the posted FSC per FCA). If you go by All in rates then applying a FSC to it will get you carriers doing just that (add 25% on top of the All in rate).

Food For thought, see below for our postal services FSC, it went up 7% from this week to the next...

When brokers got lazy and just asked for "ALL IN RATES" instead of doing actual math, we cant really complain that carriers turn around and bump their all in rates by 25%, can we? maybe we can. Free country.


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