Crazy rate but I booked it anyway because I had to

chauhan12 said:
Rates are going up but no proof as of yet that O/Os or driver pay has gone up as well.
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I am guessing you are a driver? I would say if the rate increase hold you will be seeing a jump in pay. Hard to say to a driver well rates are up her is a raise but call him in a month and say sorry gotta take that back things just went in the shitter on rates again. I am not saying drivers do not need it or deserve it but rates have just started upward we need them to be firmly in place before we can commit.
 
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Watch diesel fuel prices as well. Crude oil has been on a steady rise lately. Won't take long for retail prices to catch up, especially in the winter. US prices are close to $0.50 US/gal higher than 1 year ago. A stronger Canadian dollar has perhaps helped buffer some of that for Canadian carriers, but who knows how long our dollar will remain above the 80 cent US mark? Hmmmmm........higher transportation costs = higher food and basics costs, higher fuel prices = even higher transportation costs.........sounds like a recipe for inflation. Just when interest rates were starting to nudge higher. Interesting times.
 
Steph18 said:
I understand time is money and have nothing against that, but let me clarify what my 300 mile run was-
OH back to TO -FCFS both ends very easy shipment with no excess waiting, 2400$ was from a one off carrier I've never heard of before, which was being greedy and he knew it.. the guy had no shame as he was fishing for the highest paying load.

I try to be fair with all my carriers, but some of the rates people are asking for are a tad unrealistic.
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You also might be surprised to find that if you did buckle and give the freight to him at 2400$, it wouldn't be his truck, he'd find someone to double broker it to.
 
Shakey said:
https://www.shippersedgetms.com/blog/shippers-sabotage-spot-market
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Great points. Pretty much hits the nail on the head.
A great example is the southern Ontario cucumber season. The one shipper flogs his loads out to every broker that will consider taking them (and even some that don't really want them). What it looks like to the marketplace is that there are 30 to 45 loads available on any given day. The reality is that there are only 15 or 20 loads. Regardless, the shipper ends up paying thru the nose to lock down trucks that he could have gotten for far less in the first place.
 
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Michael Ludwig said:
Great points. Pretty much hits the nail on the head.
A great example is the southern Ontario cucumber season. The one shipper flogs his loads out to every broker that will consider taking them (and even some that don't really want them). What it looks like to the marketplace is that there are 30 to 45 loads available on any given day. The reality is that there are only 15 or 20 loads. Regardless, the shipper ends up paying thru the nose to lock down trucks that he could have gotten for far less in the first place.
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And the really funny part is they have their own brokerage and use mostly the cream of the crap brokers to try and move them.
 
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Ahhhh ... that's right, you know them too !!!
I out and out told them one day why I turn their loads down ... I wait until the end of the day and start pitting load brokers against on another until I get the best rate I think I can get.
Short story long ... what happens when you work for these guys is every season is a "Quote our lanes" deal. Essentially a race to the bottom for rates. The thing is no one ever has trucks available for the rates they bid. Everyone waits for the loads to hit the load broker community and then they [load brokers] all start fighting over who can supply trucks, and damn the cost. The shipper thinks "Great, I got trucks" ... ROFLMFAO
Frankly, it's funny as hell.
 
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Well well - looks like the oranges out of Mass are running back into Loblaws- wonder how thats going to get rated this year with the delays at the Port and the delivery to Slowblaws....
 
Michael Ludwig said:
No.
Contrary to popular belief, the company to which you are referring is actually quite a well run organization.
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I'll just say their office looks nice. Never know who is lurking in the shadows. I left that office just feeling slimy and dirty. Mind you that was probably close to 10 years ago now.
 
Michael Ludwig said:
Ahhhh ... that's right, you know them too !!!
I out and out told them one day why I turn their loads down ... I wait until the end of the day and start pitting load brokers against on another until I get the best rate I think I can get.
Short story long ... what happens when you work for these guys is every season is a "Quote our lanes" deal. Essentially a race to the bottom for rates. The thing is no one ever has trucks available for the rates they bid. Everyone waits for the loads to hit the load broker community and then they [load brokers] all start fighting over who can supply trucks, and damn the cost. The shipper thinks "Great, I got trucks" ... ROFLMFAO
Frankly, it's funny as hell.
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And they even tried to run their own trucks two years ago and hire their own drivers
 
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