Cheap Freight Of The Day??

Same old, same old. Rates are up "inbound" due to supply and demand so automatically rates outbound go in the crapper. Welcome to trucking.
 
trying to take advantage of all the flat freight down there waiting to come back and no trucks. Funny thing, rate hasn't doubled coming back on most the stuff.
Guess thats an "opportunity knocks" rate...looking for a guy being paid round trip. Maybe NC is the new Edmonton.
 
I think everyone knows who the shipper is? Notoriously cheap freight.

If that was van freight it wouldn't be so bad, but for a flat ... shame on whoever it is selling it.
 
Fls

Almost fell off my flippin chair laughing, Tony Daniel at FLS offered this one up.

Welland, ON to Charlotte, NC -- Full load, skidded, 44K for a flat, rolltite or step, needs tarps for a whoppin :eek: $1,100.00 !!!!!!!!!! I couldn't drive my pick up down there for that, even with a good tailwind!!! lmao

I have turned down every outbound load he has offered to us since his move to FLS.....I do understand that the economy has put a turn on our rates southbound, but there is a limit.
 
is this really what I would pay if I posted my loads..I pay my flatbed guys over 2k,,they also give me their inbound trucks without posting them. The best carriers don't use the link. You get what you pay for.
 
Every carrier uses Link to some extent, doesn't matter who it is. Be it somebody as big as Schneider or as small as a two truck operation, they all use it.
 
GTA to MN dry van $1000!!!

Am I missing something? I saw a load on the Link yesterday. I forget the details but I am pretty sure it was a dry van load GTA to somewhere in MN. The posted rate was $1000 and the loaded miles were more than 1000 miles! I guess I missed the memo that says FTL from MN is now $3+ per mile? Ridiculous and shame on the carrier that took that load.
 
When brokers and carriers alike put in a Link posting with a rate on it, it's never good.

What's worse is when people on Linkedin respond to someone's request to move something and put the posting on Linkedin ... which is WAY more widely used than this forum. Mental giants.
 
And the point is???

A truck/carrier has the same operating costs no matter which way it is going.

Head-haul and back-haul rates were the age of the dinosaur. The industry did it to themselves but it's time load brokers come in to the
21st century.

It's ok to sell freight for zip when you get your 20% for making a 10 minute phone call. What about the stress and b/s a driver (the guy that actually does the work) has to put up with dealing with impossible promises, incomplete transportion paperwork, weather, customs and traffic?

Rates should not be any different. A load od t/p from Toronto to Chicago should be rated the same as load of t/p from Chicago to Toronto.

It's the same mileage, same borders, same routings but for some reason load brokers figure outbound fuel costs 60% less.

I'm not too sure you are exactly correct there Buzzy. You see, when you look at the globe, travelling from Canada to the United States is definitely down hill. Now I'm no mathematician, but it appears to me that it is down hill at a pretty steep angle. Well, it only stands to reason that a truck travelling on such a long and steep down hill grade would use very little fuel, if any at all. Ergo, the shipper shouldn't have to pay for fuel you aren't going to use.

I do hope that in some small way I have been able to help you understand "Canada-US Transport Economics 101"
 
That was a joke right? Driving to Chicago is down hill and Toronto is up hill?



I'm not too sure you are exactly correct there Buzzy. You see, when you look at the globe, travelling from Canada to the United States is definitely down hill. Now I'm no mathematician, but it appears to me that it is down hill at a pretty steep angle. Well, it only stands to reason that a truck travelling on such a long and steep down hill grade would use very little fuel, if any at all. Ergo, the shipper shouldn't have to pay for fuel you aren't going to use.

I do hope that in some small way I have been able to help you understand "Canada-US Transport Economics 101"
 
Here's a nice cheap load, CH calls today looking to move a TL 44,000 lbs from Toronto to Boston area he offers $1200 almost shit myself, who in this industry is moving freight for this kind of money. We carriers can blame brokers for the shit rates that most freight is moving for these days, but the carriers that are doing it for that price is really the assholes to blame.