Censorship??

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In the last week or so, some site members have been admonished by some moderators for being aggressive in their thoughts (please see thoughts on co brokering, etc.).

I'm going out on a limb and in my humble opinion offer that this may akin to a form of censorship. These members had posted under "Anything & Everything" as well as under the sub category of "Moan & Groan" so, what's the problem? It was posted in the proper category, correct? Were they not talking about "Anything & Everything"?

I do understand that some members carry it a little too far for my liking but if I don't want to read it, then it becomes my choice. It shouldn't be administration of the site to denounce what is said as long as it is in the proper category and context.

The next thing people on this site will be demanding is that the woman's beach volley ball team will have to adhere to the Muslim dress code. I watch so little sports as it is and it's refreshing to see young, well conditioned female athletes stretching and driving to win a point (he grins bigtime) I hope I'm not censored for that thought...

Censorship has never, ever done anything good for anyone (remember book burnings?) and I hope that Inside Transport will not subscribe to this way of thinking....
 
Manitoba Moose, I have personally deleted some posts, and for good reasons not to censor the information but to avoid any misbehaviour that can come out of it. If you are have information on someone personal home address then let the members know and those who are interested PM it to them.
 
Manitoba Moose/Maggs,

Please note the following forum rules you both agreed upon when you joined Inside Transport:

Moderators & Administrators of Inside Transport - Carriers Connect reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason.

Moderators & Administrators will take disciplinary action against any member that violates any of the below rules in either a warning, infraction or banning depending upon the severity of the offense.
Do not confront a moderator or administrator in open forum and "talk back" to them. If you have a problem with a moderator then PM the mod and work it out, if it cannot be solved PM the administrator and work it out with them.

The rules can be changed at any time for any reason, it is your responsibility to keep up with the rules. When changes are made they will be posted in the forum.

Moderators & Administrator reserve the right to change any rules at any time, and ban anyone at any time no matter their involvement & usergroup status on this site.

Going forward - if you still have any issues with how the board is moderated and what information is either deleted or modified - by moderators or Admin - you can simply deactive your accounts.

That is the choice you both have.

Myself nor Admin has any interest in getting into censorship debates with any member.

Thank you
 
Let us know if you feel something was deleted unfairly everyone can make a judgement mistake but we only censor to keep this forum clean.
 
I'm with you Manitoba Moose...

I think we do need moderation when some people get out of line with their comments and personal attacks...

But, we are all adults here (I think so anyway...) and can handle some rough language and straight talking... Hell, this is the trucking industry... We don't have to "talk like truck drivers", so to speak, but we're not all a bunch of nancy boys either... haahahaa... Sorry to anyone who's name is Nancy by the way...

It's a fine line I guess...

I for one would love to see what comments were so bad in the "Thoughts on co-brokering" thread that they were removed... It's like, you know something really entertaining was said, but you will never know what it was... Oh well...
 
Hey Paul,

Please do not get me wrong as I do think that some form of administration is sometimes warranted and you do make a valid point regarding publically posting private information. I do not disagree with you on that point but...

I did say "I do understand that some members carry it a little too far for my liking but if I don't want to read it, then it becomes my choice. It shouldn't be administration of the site to denounce what is said as long as it is in the proper category and context."
 
I believe that the Moderators intent was to prevent the "he said, she said", personal attacks that hold no value for the majority of the members on this site. All too often, what starts as a reasonable discussion about an issue that affects this industry, degenerates into a name calling episode about what one member may or may not have done to another some time in the distant past. I personally have no interest in reading about it.
 
Thanks for bringing it up we will discuss what you mentioned and how far things can go to make sure all moderators/admin agree.
 
loaders said:
I believe that the Moderators intent was to prevent the "he said, she said", personal attacks that hold no value for the majority of the members on this site. All too often, what starts as a reasonable discussion about an issue that affects this industry, degenerates into a name calling episode about what one member may or may not have done to another some time in the distant past. I personally have no interest in reading about it.
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well said!

I agree!
 
loaders said:
I believe that the Moderators intent was to prevent the "he said, she said", personal attacks that hold no value for the majority of the members on this site.
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That is exactly what got deleted on the co-brokering thread. I had asked members to stay on topic. This did not happen - one member posted right after mine and started with the name calling/company bashing - all based on their past personal experience. It was not on topic - as I had requested twice last Friday - and useless information that members are not interested in reading.

Hence the reason for the deletions. If members are asked once....twice...to refrain from breaking forum rules - they simply cannot keep going and ranting whatever they'd like.

As this site grows and gains more members - so does the need to keep its integrity in place. Forum rules become even more important to follow.

Eveyone has a bad day - and can "vent" under the moan & groan header. But there is a fine line that seems to be crossed more and more the past couple weeks.

It simply needs to stop - for the sake of all members here who enjoy the reads and contributions they make on a daily basis.
 
Ok, I tap... Sorry...

I didn't mean to get everyone's panties in a knot about this subject and I wasn't saying or implying that Inside Transport or it's moderators were censoring anything.

I just said that I hoped they weren't going down that road.

Again please accept my humble apologies for voicing an opinion but I will definitely have to review my membership to this site if a member cannot express his opnion without having his fingers rapped bigtime.

Wasn't it Groucho Marx that said "I don't want to belong to a club that would have me as a member"?
 
Your opinion Manitoba Moose is duly noted.

The board deals with alot of other "outside" factors also regarding members - their requests - violations - private messages etc. We deal with alot more than just posts.

Sometimes what you see posted - is not the "whole" story. Moderators/Admin get involved - speak to the parties - and try to resolve any issues and ensure the board is operating smoothly. And this is done on a private level - which involves personal time - time we are not paid for. It is done because the integrity of this board is our #1 focus and priority - to better everyone here.

Now you have a better understanding of where we are coming from - and the behind the scenes work involved in running the board.

Just to clarify - Groucho Marx was quoted as saying:

"I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members."
 
No one's trying to censor

No one is trying to censor anyone. Alas, even boxing has rules- No hitting below the belt! The admins are all volunteers and try to keep the forum a professional place with informative information for the members.

Public bashing and arguing over broker vs. carrier and taking it into the dumpster just doesn't help the cause.

Even free speech has limits. You can't slander, you can't run into a movie theater and yell "fire", etc. This is the spirit in which the admins are monitoring the site.
 
Most of the stuff you may refer to as censorship are mostly spelling and grammer errors that we try to fix.
 
Paul Shteyn said:
Most of the stuff you may refer to as censorship are mostly spelling and grammer errors that we try to fix.
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In all fairness, I think the censorship being discussed is not related to spelling or grammer... Those are edits we can all likely appreciate...

I think the issue is with entire posts that are removed.
 
Pablo said:
No one is trying to censor anyone. Alas, even boxing has rules- No hitting below the belt! The admins are all volunteers and try to keep the forum a professional place with informative information for the members.

Public bashing and arguing over broker vs. carrier and taking it into the dumpster just doesn't help the cause.

Even free speech has limits. You can't slander, you can't run into a movie theater and yell "fire", etc. This is the spirit in which the admins are monitoring the site.
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Thanks Pablo for such a great post. You have explained it in a very nice way.
 
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