Canada Post strike; Payment delivery

Uh oh, looks like round 2 is looming. Hopefully everyone has learned from the last time and is better prepared.

 
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Well, lately, even current delivery personals( either themselves or union instructions) refused to deliver mail. Our mail box was on the fence gate( for last 40 years, 8 feet from edge of the road) and we bought property 4 years back and they were delivering the mail to this box, till now. And we noticed that there was no mail coming in for last 5 weeks, spoke with delivery personal and was told that our box must be right on the edge of the road and then only they can deliver the mail. Did not even wants to get out of their vehicle to put the mail in the box.
makes me wonder, if this is or was the rule or they just got too lazy lately, to do so. And they need wages increase?
 
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Well, lately, even current delivery personals( either themselves or union instructions) refused to deliver mail. Our mail box was on the fence gate( for last 40 years, 8 feet from edge of the road) and we bought property 4 years back and they were delivering the mail to this box, till now. And we noticed that there was no mail coming in for last 5 weeks, spoke with delivery personal and was told that our box must be right on the edge of the road and then only they can deliver the mail. Did not even wants to get out of their vehicle to put the mail in the box.
makes me wonder, if this is or was the rule or they just got too lazy lately, to do so. And they need wages increase?
This work stoppage has nothing to do with wage increases. It is the employer’s plan to eliminate home delivery thereby reducing the workforce. As for rural delivery, I have had mailbox delivery at my present location for the last 10 years and my previous home in Caledon for over 20. The rules regarding mailbox placement are quite clear and not at all complicated . The height of the box, the distance from the road edge, etc. are all spelled out so that the delivery personnel can complete their duties first and foremost safely and efficiently. Forcing the driver to get out of their vehicle at each and every stop wouldn’t be a very efficient way to deliver the mail, would it?
 
This work stoppage has nothing to do with wage increases. It is the employer’s plan to eliminate home delivery thereby reducing the workforce. As for rural delivery, I have had mailbox delivery at my present location for the last 10 years and my previous home in Caledon for over 20. The rules regarding mailbox placement are quite clear and not at all complicated . The height of the box, the distance from the road edge, etc. are all spelled out so that the delivery personnel can complete their duties first and foremost safely and efficiently. Forcing the driver to get out of their vehicle at each and every stop wouldn’t be a very efficient way to deliver the mail, would it?
Since they recently stop delivering, make one wonder why now. since they were doing for so long. Either they were not following the rules in past or present.
 
Since they recently stop delivering, make one wonder why now. since they were doing for so long. Either they were not following the rules in past or present.
I have a buddy who works for Canada Post in Oakville.

It probably has to do with the previous strike and return to work. He said its been like a witch hunt, the managers are trying to find any reason to write up employees now.

So everyone is having to follow the rules to an absolute T. And let me tell you, some of these rules are down right ridiculous.

He mentioned someone got written up and suspended for 5 days in his depot because they opened a gate to deliver a package, which is against the rules.

The manager was auditing the route that day, watched it and wrote them up.
 
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This work stoppage has nothing to do with wage increases. It is the employer’s plan to eliminate home delivery thereby reducing the workforce. As for rural delivery, I have had mailbox delivery at my present location for the last 10 years and my previous home in Caledon for over 20. The rules regarding mailbox placement are quite clear and not at all complicated . The height of the box, the distance from the road edge, etc. are all spelled out so that the delivery personnel can complete their duties first and foremost safely and efficiently. Forcing the driver to get out of their vehicle at each and every stop wouldn’t be a very efficient way to deliver the mail, would it?
I don't know, man - mailmen used to walk along the neighborhood and deliver 300-400 envelopes a day if not more. Not sure what you consider efficient.
 
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I don't know, man - mailmen used to walk along the neighborhood and deliver 300-400 envelopes a day if not more. Not sure what you consider efficient.
My reference to efficiency was regarding rural route deliveries, not urban, door to door service. The delivery drivers, which are a mix of Canada Post employees and independent contractors, face both similar and very different challenges when compared to the all familiar “postie” walking on your street. Trying to assist them in carrying out their duties by properly locating and maintaining your mail box and keeping clear access to it can increase their efficiency. As far as the whole system is concerned, charging +/-$1.40 to deliver an envelope from one side of the country to the other, in this day and age, is completely ridiculous! No wonder they are drowning in debt.
 
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Maybe raising the price on letter mail would help. If it can’t go electronically then maybe the sender needs to pay accordingly. The courier companies charge far more..and they don’t have the burden of having to service every address in Canada. Instead of cutting services and making the service worth less (also called “having your business CIRCLE THE DRAIN”)… keep the services and charge more. Higher rates would also kill off some of the junk mail we all get every week, and it would force senders to think twice about mass mailings, most of which go diectly from the mailbox to the dumpster.
 
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Maybe raising the price on letter mail would help. If it can’t go electronically then maybe the sender needs to pay accordingly. The courier companies charge far more..and they don’t have the burden of having to service every address in Canada. Instead of cutting services and making the service worth less (also called “having your business CIRCLE THE DRAIN”)… keep the services and charge more. Higher rates would also kill off some of the junk mail we all get every week, and it would force senders to think twice about mass mailings, most of which go diectly from the mailbox to the dumpster.

That would ultimately have the same effect as reducing door to door delivery because less mail in the system means fewer people are needed, which in theory should help keep postage costs stable. The reality we will most likely see both higher costs and the end of door to door service at the same time. Personally, I don’t have an issue with losing door to door delivery. Most cities in the GVA like Surrey, already use community mailboxes and people get by just fine with them. The bigger question is whether Canada Post is willing to modernize its business model beyond just cutting services, simply charging more while offering less is not really sustainable in the long run.