Maybe that came out as inconsiderate but I can tell you when I have a freight that I post and 20carriers called me The one that gets the load is very happy. Just saying
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Maybe that came out as inconsiderate but I can tell you when I have a freight that I post and 20carriers called me The one that gets the load is very happy. Just saying
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I would not continue to move loads for a customer that is paying me in 60 - 90 days personally... I'm not a bank... I've had direct customers like this, and we don't deal with them anymore.
In my experience, it is the loads that are brokered to me that I have to wait 60 days to be paid... I tend to weed these ones out too.
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Does this deserve an answer? While good load brokers are getting harder to find there are still a bunch of them out there. You know the reputable ones that have sales teams out there busting their balls to get direct customers. As a small carrier that hauls mostly our own direct customer freight I will go with the customers and reputable brokers. Then there are the shadier ones( double , co , triple slimeball) that scour the internet load boards for unsuspecting US brokers to double broker the freight from them to poor Canadian trucking firms that don't know who the scum bag brokers are..
The we ask a carrier what they want and pay them that is bullshit. If I paid every carrier that calls here what they ask I might as well post a outbound round trip on my inbound load from Podunk to Toronto as some of these guys shoot for the moon and stars with their rates seeing if I fell off the turnip truck or have a real bad hangover and just need to sell the farm to get rid of the load.
You think you can come on this board and defend CO-BROKERING lol been there done that I do believe the last one that tried to justify it with me is still in therapy from the ass whooping he took on the subject.
In a post you called some trucking companies assholes!! Why? Because he caught you and called the Yankee broker and cut you out of the picture. Good for them the more that do it the better because... guess what we don't need co brokers we all have the internet and the my US broker customer thinks it is better is a line of shit also. If he is giving it to you instead of posting the load he is lazy and a shitty broker to start with.
PS We cut you off working with you years ago the same as all the other Co Brokers for this shit. I just wish more carriers would. Just call it what it is double brokering and not needed in an internet world.
Happy Easter everyone.
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Same here.. anything beyond 30 days becomes problematic. I need to pay my carriers in 15 days or else my own reputation goes down the drain..
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15 days eh... Damn... I gotta get me some of those loads!
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If it takes 2 brokers to move one load, that must be one hell of a complicated load! Or, as Rob so eloquently put it, one of the 2 is pretty lazy. There is no need to defend yourself Alexander. Everyone is entitled to operate their business as they see fit. It just so happens that quite a few members on this site don't agree with your particular business model. If it works for you, so be it. Personally, I can't see it as being sustainable for a long period.
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but? Just clap anyway.. or.. pull a "United" and beat the poop out of someone.. oh..and happy Easter.
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Alexander,
I pulled your last post as it was nothing more than a personal attack and didn't contribute at all to this thread, feel free to call or PM that member if you would like to discuss further with them.
Keep well,
Mike
I pulled your last post as it was nothing more than a personal attack and didn't contribute at all to this thread, feel free to call or PM that member if you would like to discuss further with them.
Keep well,
Mike
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I call BS on this on this whole thing. My point is that almost never does the actual shipper know that their freight is being passed through several hands, so indeed it is sneaky and underhanded. If the shipper ultimately knows, chances are his/her relatinoship with their broker is based on something other than merit.
MOST shippers are paying on 45 or 60 day terms (small ones pay faster because they have no clout to demand otherwise). Part of a broker's value to its carrier partners is to offer accelerated cash flow ... basically, if you can't do it you're undercapitalized and are a marginal player. I know that this remark is not going to make me very popular today.
Part of the investment that a broker makes into being in this business nowadays is having resources behind it to carry A/R.
Enough said.
MOST shippers are paying on 45 or 60 day terms (small ones pay faster because they have no clout to demand otherwise). Part of a broker's value to its carrier partners is to offer accelerated cash flow ... basically, if you can't do it you're undercapitalized and are a marginal player. I know that this remark is not going to make me very popular today.
Part of the investment that a broker makes into being in this business nowadays is having resources behind it to carry A/R.
Enough said.
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Agreed. While most brokers will find it difficult at the beginning to gather enough capital to ensure your suppliers are paid within their terms, after a few years of profitable operations, there should be enough money "in the business" to do so. Unless of course, you decide to give yourself an oversized, year-end dividend, draining the company of the funds required to start the next year. It makes no difference whether you are a freight broker, a carrier, or an independent owner-operator, we all have a hungry, unpredictable partner. If you own your business, it is the business itself that must be maintained and kept healthy. If you are an O/O, it is that cash eating, metal beast parked outside your window.
Ok I apologize if anyone got offended, I just thought this was an open minded conversation we are all having.