Reefers in CA?

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We have a couple of reefer loads (frozen) available this week coming back to Ontario. Please send me a PM if interested. Food product so only top notch equipment please.
 
That is annoying. 2 frozen loads ex CA to ON, and had to decline them for a lack of available trucks. Been offering the same adequate rate for the last 6 months without problems, but due to the current lack of trucks and high spot market rates being offered, we and our customer, get shut out. Fortunately, the customer is an experienced shipper and knows that these rate blips occur periodically, but when it is slow like this you can sure use the revenue of 2 CA loads. Oh well, keep on going!
 
Rate is $7000 USD right now out Salinas area .........

Demand and supply u know.............................................

On the other hand, some of the well know members here paying very insulting rates out of OH and MI coming back to Ontario for Dry Vans so its all Market.
 
Even Coyote is offering $7000 USD
 

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I think we'd all like some 'normalcy' but sadly it's not coming as soon as next week. We all share the same frustrations - someone else out there is moving freight at a loss just to keep people employed and so we miss opportunity after opportunity because it's a shippers market right now (on most lanes).
We just completed a rate quote for a customer, 16 skids outbound to FL. I had one carrier advise me her rate was $2400 CAD, we had another carrier call in and say he was basically sending out his truck to pick up his customer's freight so he would do it for $1000. Quoted the customer based on the embarassingly low $1000 (and a small margin to boot). Guess what? Someone else quoted less, we didn't get the order.

Trans - you're right shippers in OH are demanding rates that are nearly 1/3 of that when it was the other way around and we were paying $2000 for TL inbound from OH back 2 years ago..

I'll go back to: We're ALL looking forward to things opening up so there's more freight, higher demand and also higher rates.

I'm seeing business down approx 19% over the last 10 days and margins down too about 10%-12% (as we try to hang on to business). No one is rolling in dough right now in our industry, that's for sure.

Keep safe out there,
Mike
 
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That is annoying. 2 frozen loads ex CA to ON, and had to decline them for a lack of available trucks. Been offering the same adequate rate for the last 6 months without problems, but due to the current lack of trucks and high spot market rates being offered, we and our customer, get shut out. Fortunately, the customer is an experienced shipper and knows that these rate blips occur periodically, but when it is slow like this you can sure use the revenue of 2 CA loads. Oh well, keep on going!

What is your understanding of a "same adequate rate" is my question ?

Greg
 
People keep saying shippers are demanding rate decreases but I haven't seen that at all on contracted lanes.

Spot stuff right now is the wild west and generally not worth getting involved in unless you have a driver stuck.
 
Greg, if the rate has been accepted, week after week, after week by various trucking companies without complaint, without begging for more or any other type of hesitation, I would say that is an adequate rate. The number itself doesn't really matter, until of course, you get into situations similar to where we find ourselves now. I feel that you might be anxious to say something to the effect....".oh you brokers, what did you expect offering low ball rates". I can assure you on my grandsons life and on the reputation I think I have earned in thirty years of business, that is definitely not the case here. Believe me, that is a big time assurance!
 
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You still didn't tell me what a fair - 52 weeks of the year rate is from California , or what you think is fair.
We have a few trucks in California every week and are not interested in the produce bullshit.
 
Greg, the rate to the truck is approx. $2.60-$2.65 per mile Cdn $. As you can appreciate, I am somewhat hesitant to disclose the origin and the destination as there are others on this site, perhaps your firm as well, that already supply transport services to this large, multi national customer. As I said, this rate has been sufficient to obtain trucks for quite a long while. The situation, as I see it now however, is a decreased number of available trucks and increased demand from the produce sector. If Canadian trucks are not getting the loads to go there, the few that do can pick and choose the backhauls. If you already have trucks in California presently, then I am sure you are enjoying the increased rates as well. If at any time our rates become even remotely attractive, please do not hesitate to send me a PM and I can put you in touch with our operations people.
 
Price gouging is real and happening all over the US nowadays. Hopefully we return to normalcy soon.