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We're about to set up a new carrier today. Anyone have anything good/bad to say about ATMA Logistics in Brampton, ON. I'm a little concerned as their address is a house.
ATMA Logistics
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Pablo - do what I do if you really want to know if someone is going to mess with you: go on SAFERSYS.org, check how many trucks they have registered and when they registered (the MCS-150 date) then ask them how many trucks they have and how long they have been around.
ATMA shows only 2 trucks and 4 drivers and been around since Nov. 3/08. That is highly unusual for a company that has existed for 2 years (hint: companies are supposed to grow.)
If they tell you 50 trucks or something radically different and you haven't seen one of those trucks on the highway, you are probably right to doubt it.
If it makes you feel even better, go one step further and ask for 3 references of companies they have done business with or better still, if your Spidey Sense is tingling (it may be too much coffee), you don't have to use them.
Hope that helps.
ATMA shows only 2 trucks and 4 drivers and been around since Nov. 3/08. That is highly unusual for a company that has existed for 2 years (hint: companies are supposed to grow.)
If they tell you 50 trucks or something radically different and you haven't seen one of those trucks on the highway, you are probably right to doubt it.
If it makes you feel even better, go one step further and ask for 3 references of companies they have done business with or better still, if your Spidey Sense is tingling (it may be too much coffee), you don't have to use them.
Hope that helps.
Businesses are supposed to grow BUT with all the rate cutters, the economy, etc some of the better carriers either downsize or disappear all together.
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Morning Drob,
ATMA handles mainly TL from IL for us. Food grade, strict apt times inbound... Never an issue.
Amrit gets a thumbs up from me.
Happy Friday, keep well,
Mike
Side note - Safer shows you how many trucks/drivers are US capable, not the size of the 'entire fleet'.
Side note #2 - regarding growth... Seems like every carrier I meet with lately does not want to grow. Due to current supply/demand and rates increasing they'd rather keep capacity the same... Makes sense from a business owner perspective.
ATMA handles mainly TL from IL for us. Food grade, strict apt times inbound... Never an issue.
Amrit gets a thumbs up from me.
Happy Friday, keep well,
Mike
Side note - Safer shows you how many trucks/drivers are US capable, not the size of the 'entire fleet'.
Side note #2 - regarding growth... Seems like every carrier I meet with lately does not want to grow. Due to current supply/demand and rates increasing they'd rather keep capacity the same... Makes sense from a business owner perspective.
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Not necessarily how many are US capable, but how many units the DOT has a record of. Our Canadian one shows 1 truck last time I looked though we are running much more than that. Our US stats which are under a different DOT and MC# reflect maybe half of what we actually have.
Definitely not an exact science.
As far as ATMA goes, I know we've used them in the past, I agree Amrit is a stand up guy. We had a claim with him and he was good to work with on it. Usually it's when something bad happens that you see the true colors of who you're dealing with.
Definitely not an exact science.
As far as ATMA goes, I know we've used them in the past, I agree Amrit is a stand up guy. We had a claim with him and he was good to work with on it. Usually it's when something bad happens that you see the true colors of who you're dealing with.
Unfortunately it is our responsiblity to report the fleet increases to CVOR as they won't cross reference with your licensing.
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Growth
I do not think there is a company out there with 50 trucks or less that even envisaged growth over the last two years.
Now growth in units does not always equate to growth in profits.
Some companies may look at growth over the next months but it will be slow.
There has been a slight rise in used truck purchases over the last quarter. What this tells us is that the bigger fleets are not really buying , because they do not look at used equipment ( Except in Laidlaws case with MacKinnon).
Generally they use new equipment to attract drivers that are new to the industry.
Therefore, the used truck purchase will most likely mean a new entrant into the fray, thus further diluting an already over supplied capacity.
I do not think there is a company out there with 50 trucks or less that even envisaged growth over the last two years.
Now growth in units does not always equate to growth in profits.
Some companies may look at growth over the next months but it will be slow.
There has been a slight rise in used truck purchases over the last quarter. What this tells us is that the bigger fleets are not really buying , because they do not look at used equipment ( Except in Laidlaws case with MacKinnon).
Generally they use new equipment to attract drivers that are new to the industry.
Therefore, the used truck purchase will most likely mean a new entrant into the fray, thus further diluting an already over supplied capacity.