Watch Out Ashron
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I feel for you... I dealt with them twice in 2009 and that was enough for me.
Don't waste your time with Neil, you probably won't get anywhere.
You need to call and speak with Lionel, he identifies himself as the owner of the company, not sure if there are others. When I had problems back in 2009 he's the one that got me paid. You need to make it clear to him that your next call is to his customer.
Good luck.
Don't waste your time with Neil, you probably won't get anywhere.
You need to call and speak with Lionel, he identifies himself as the owner of the company, not sure if there are others. When I had problems back in 2009 he's the one that got me paid. You need to make it clear to him that your next call is to his customer.
Good luck.
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Watch out to
Ashron Transport
2375 Boul Ford
Chateauguay pq
450-692-0444
Non paying invoice since January - Neil has wonderful story for not paying. Enough is enough!!!!
I use Ashron sometimes and yes they pay kinda slow but at least I get paid. And yes - deal with Leo!
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Are you serious?
Dear Lafiesta dispatch,
I explained to you in Arpil, we are having financial difficulty so I DID NOT BOOK ANY MORE LOADS WITH YOU UNDER ASHRON TRANSPORT. I have an international forwarding company, Ashron Freight Services, that is more financially stable so I stopped booking my loads under Ashron Transport in March and have since been brokering them in Ashron Freight Services. The last load I booked with Lafiesta was billed by you on inv. 15031 on 04/08 and was paid by us on 05/05 on cheque no. 11338 - please get your story straight before posting messages as I explained this before I booked that load. AND, you just took a load from me this week (our ref. 10-02276) for which we will again pay you within 30 days. In addition, we will try to catch you up with the debt we had in Ashron Transport, but as I said (and it is no secret - nor are we hiding it) that we are having SERIOUS trouble paying our old bills. I dont appreciate your "Neil has a wonderful story" comment as I have been MORE than up front with all carriers since we started having trouble. Call IFS, Verdi, RC Mac Guri, Kleysen (I can name many others) to see if they are getting paid quickly by Ashron Freight Services - they are. We unfortunatey lost $137,000.00 with the bankruptcy of Salerno Bags and had other bad luck/problems in late 2010 and early 2011 (line MANY small trnsport companies) which has severly stressed our TRANSPORT COMPANY - ASHRON TRANSPORT. We are doing everything we can to pay back what we owe. Please anyone reading this message call me at 450-692-0444 or on my cel at 514-913-3480. I have taken EVERY call of EVERY supplier who has not been paid and I have been exactly HONEST with each one - many thanks I get with posts like this - I could easily just bankrupt the company and screw everybody but I am doing everyting I can not to do this.
I understand your frurstration with the old outstanding invoices but please get your facts straight before making this kind of post.
Neil Smith
President - Ashron Freight Services Inc.
Vice-President - Ashron Transport Inc.
Dear Lafiesta dispatch,
I explained to you in Arpil, we are having financial difficulty so I DID NOT BOOK ANY MORE LOADS WITH YOU UNDER ASHRON TRANSPORT. I have an international forwarding company, Ashron Freight Services, that is more financially stable so I stopped booking my loads under Ashron Transport in March and have since been brokering them in Ashron Freight Services. The last load I booked with Lafiesta was billed by you on inv. 15031 on 04/08 and was paid by us on 05/05 on cheque no. 11338 - please get your story straight before posting messages as I explained this before I booked that load. AND, you just took a load from me this week (our ref. 10-02276) for which we will again pay you within 30 days. In addition, we will try to catch you up with the debt we had in Ashron Transport, but as I said (and it is no secret - nor are we hiding it) that we are having SERIOUS trouble paying our old bills. I dont appreciate your "Neil has a wonderful story" comment as I have been MORE than up front with all carriers since we started having trouble. Call IFS, Verdi, RC Mac Guri, Kleysen (I can name many others) to see if they are getting paid quickly by Ashron Freight Services - they are. We unfortunatey lost $137,000.00 with the bankruptcy of Salerno Bags and had other bad luck/problems in late 2010 and early 2011 (line MANY small trnsport companies) which has severly stressed our TRANSPORT COMPANY - ASHRON TRANSPORT. We are doing everything we can to pay back what we owe. Please anyone reading this message call me at 450-692-0444 or on my cel at 514-913-3480. I have taken EVERY call of EVERY supplier who has not been paid and I have been exactly HONEST with each one - many thanks I get with posts like this - I could easily just bankrupt the company and screw everybody but I am doing everyting I can not to do this.
I understand your frurstration with the old outstanding invoices but please get your facts straight before making this kind of post.
Neil Smith
President - Ashron Freight Services Inc.
Vice-President - Ashron Transport Inc.
Johnny Chicken
Dear Johnny Chicken,
Do you get pleasure ripping people for no reason? When I asked you who you were last year, you didnt even have the courage to tell me what company you were from. As I remember it, you did eventually get paid and it was an issue you had mainly with our dispatcher at the time, Darren. Your driver was supposed to pick up a cheque when he delivred a load to us (or close by - I dont remember) and he didnt come. The invoice was then never received and it was a couple of months before your AR figured it out with our AP. The was not a non-payment issue - and we had no trouble paying our bills at the time. Our financial troubles started late 2010, particularly in Dec. when realised our AR would take a hit of $137,000 from the Salerno bankruptcy. You never even dealt with me on the issue last year as I was only responding to your post after the fact. How can you possibly say not to waste your time with Neil? - you have no idea what you are talking about. I financed Ashron Transport 100%, I did not take $1.00 of salary since its inception (come and check our books and my T4's) in Oct/2008 AND I contributed all my personal "brokered" business to assist in the growth of the company. I dont appreciate your comment as I am the one taking 10-20 calls per day from suppliers trying to keep everyone informed and share the little cash we have to go out. Just like Lafiesta dispatch - please refrain from making negative comments if you dont know what you are talkling about.
Neil Smith call me anytime 450-692-0444 off. 514-913-3480 cel.
Dear Johnny Chicken,
Do you get pleasure ripping people for no reason? When I asked you who you were last year, you didnt even have the courage to tell me what company you were from. As I remember it, you did eventually get paid and it was an issue you had mainly with our dispatcher at the time, Darren. Your driver was supposed to pick up a cheque when he delivred a load to us (or close by - I dont remember) and he didnt come. The invoice was then never received and it was a couple of months before your AR figured it out with our AP. The was not a non-payment issue - and we had no trouble paying our bills at the time. Our financial troubles started late 2010, particularly in Dec. when realised our AR would take a hit of $137,000 from the Salerno bankruptcy. You never even dealt with me on the issue last year as I was only responding to your post after the fact. How can you possibly say not to waste your time with Neil? - you have no idea what you are talking about. I financed Ashron Transport 100%, I did not take $1.00 of salary since its inception (come and check our books and my T4's) in Oct/2008 AND I contributed all my personal "brokered" business to assist in the growth of the company. I dont appreciate your comment as I am the one taking 10-20 calls per day from suppliers trying to keep everyone informed and share the little cash we have to go out. Just like Lafiesta dispatch - please refrain from making negative comments if you dont know what you are talkling about.
Neil Smith call me anytime 450-692-0444 off. 514-913-3480 cel.
my bad
Sorry, I just noticed the Lafiesta post was a reply to Stefou27 and not the original posting - my sincere apologies Ginette/Valerie and the gang at Lafiesta. Sorry! (Thanks for the note that we are paying ok).
For Stefou27 - please identify yourself or call me 450-692-0444 office and 514-913-3480 cel.
You may accuse us of paying late, I plead guilty - we are in financial difficulty and I am doing everying I can to pay people we owe, but you have no right to question my integrity - this, I will not accept!
For all posters out there - grow some balls and identify yourself by your user name or indicate who you are in your posts. How can I address the situation with you if I have no idea who you are?
Neil Smith
Sorry, I just noticed the Lafiesta post was a reply to Stefou27 and not the original posting - my sincere apologies Ginette/Valerie and the gang at Lafiesta. Sorry! (Thanks for the note that we are paying ok).
For Stefou27 - please identify yourself or call me 450-692-0444 office and 514-913-3480 cel.
You may accuse us of paying late, I plead guilty - we are in financial difficulty and I am doing everying I can to pay people we owe, but you have no right to question my integrity - this, I will not accept!
For all posters out there - grow some balls and identify yourself by your user name or indicate who you are in your posts. How can I address the situation with you if I have no idea who you are?
Neil Smith
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Ashron
"The likelihood of you being paid is very small and in the event of a bankruptcy there will be nothing left for the non-secured creditors " there is more but what it boils down to is that we are out monies by Ashron Transport and yes there are April and May invoices under that name and not Ashron Freight so I guess it it time to go after the customer
"The likelihood of you being paid is very small and in the event of a bankruptcy there will be nothing left for the non-secured creditors " there is more but what it boils down to is that we are out monies by Ashron Transport and yes there are April and May invoices under that name and not Ashron Freight so I guess it it time to go after the customer
ashron
Dear Puttingintime,
Once again, please tell me who you are so I can contact you and help you in some way. Or, like most people on this site, if you will not divulge your identity, please call me 450-692-0444 or 514-913-3480.
You conveniently forgot the second part of my message today to Jeff Lahay at Accutrac Financing, "Truthfully, we are trying to avoid this at this time (brankruptcy) and make deals with as many suppliers as we can". Anonymous postings are so easy to manipulate with omissions but I can't blame you because you are frustrated, and with every right.
I am not hiding anything from any vendors about the unfortunate situation (yes, unfortunate - for me personally whose personal losses in this failed business will probably top $350,000.00 (my lifes savings AND future income) and for those carriers who granted us credit, only to find the company does not have the resources to pay) but despite this fact, I have almost repaid a couple of suppliers from my ongoing business in Ashron Freight Servics Inc., even though I have no legal responsibility to do so. And I will continue to do this for those that work with me. For those that can't wait and have to sue our shippers and consignees, what can I do? Banks don't give mortages on homes mortaged to the hilt . . .
My point is that despite the fact this business if full of bad brokers and transports who don't care and will screw other carriers without thinking, this is not the case with Ashron Transport. We (I) invested money, sweat and now tears and if the economy hadnt been so bad for the first 2 years of our business and if we hadnt made some questionable decisions, perhaps we could have weathered the big blow we had in December. The fact is, our hole is now just too big to get out of.
That is why for those carriers reading this site, I ask that you understand that Ashron Freight Services Inc. will continue working into the future as we are an international freight forwarder and truck broker. We are financially secure and because we do not have the expenses of an asset-based carrier like Ashron Transport does, there is little risk that the money that comes in from a client to pay for a load will go anywhere other than to the carrier that did that load. Further, any and all of the profits I make for some time will go to pay back vendors who lost money with my other failed company - who else do you know who will do this? No RRSP's, no RESP's , no fancy cars, vacation homes or wasted money. I am running the operation as slim as I can so I make the most I can to pay people back. How much and how fast, I can't say, but the commitment is there. What more can I do? I am even open for suggestions.
I regret what has happened and if I was rich man, I would just write cheques to all our vendors and write it off to a bad experience, but dont have that kind of money so my only choice is to earn more to pay more off.
Anyway, whoever you are, call me if you like - my number is above.
Carriers, if you see Ashron Freight Services posting loads in the coming weeks, please dont automatically ignore them becuase of the name association with Ashron Transport. I could just change my name to "hide" and try to trick you into taking my loads, but I am honest and have nothing to hide. Ashron is named after my kids Ashley and Aaron and I dont want to give up on the name. If you see my posts, call me, we can make payment arrangements until an honest rapport is established. I have always and will continue to do business with my clients AND vendors based on mutual respect.
Neil Smith
Vice President 50% owner Ashron Transport Inc.
President owner of Ashron Freight Services Inc.
Dear Puttingintime,
Once again, please tell me who you are so I can contact you and help you in some way. Or, like most people on this site, if you will not divulge your identity, please call me 450-692-0444 or 514-913-3480.
You conveniently forgot the second part of my message today to Jeff Lahay at Accutrac Financing, "Truthfully, we are trying to avoid this at this time (brankruptcy) and make deals with as many suppliers as we can". Anonymous postings are so easy to manipulate with omissions but I can't blame you because you are frustrated, and with every right.
I am not hiding anything from any vendors about the unfortunate situation (yes, unfortunate - for me personally whose personal losses in this failed business will probably top $350,000.00 (my lifes savings AND future income) and for those carriers who granted us credit, only to find the company does not have the resources to pay) but despite this fact, I have almost repaid a couple of suppliers from my ongoing business in Ashron Freight Servics Inc., even though I have no legal responsibility to do so. And I will continue to do this for those that work with me. For those that can't wait and have to sue our shippers and consignees, what can I do? Banks don't give mortages on homes mortaged to the hilt . . .
My point is that despite the fact this business if full of bad brokers and transports who don't care and will screw other carriers without thinking, this is not the case with Ashron Transport. We (I) invested money, sweat and now tears and if the economy hadnt been so bad for the first 2 years of our business and if we hadnt made some questionable decisions, perhaps we could have weathered the big blow we had in December. The fact is, our hole is now just too big to get out of.
That is why for those carriers reading this site, I ask that you understand that Ashron Freight Services Inc. will continue working into the future as we are an international freight forwarder and truck broker. We are financially secure and because we do not have the expenses of an asset-based carrier like Ashron Transport does, there is little risk that the money that comes in from a client to pay for a load will go anywhere other than to the carrier that did that load. Further, any and all of the profits I make for some time will go to pay back vendors who lost money with my other failed company - who else do you know who will do this? No RRSP's, no RESP's , no fancy cars, vacation homes or wasted money. I am running the operation as slim as I can so I make the most I can to pay people back. How much and how fast, I can't say, but the commitment is there. What more can I do? I am even open for suggestions.
I regret what has happened and if I was rich man, I would just write cheques to all our vendors and write it off to a bad experience, but dont have that kind of money so my only choice is to earn more to pay more off.
Anyway, whoever you are, call me if you like - my number is above.
Carriers, if you see Ashron Freight Services posting loads in the coming weeks, please dont automatically ignore them becuase of the name association with Ashron Transport. I could just change my name to "hide" and try to trick you into taking my loads, but I am honest and have nothing to hide. Ashron is named after my kids Ashley and Aaron and I dont want to give up on the name. If you see my posts, call me, we can make payment arrangements until an honest rapport is established. I have always and will continue to do business with my clients AND vendors based on mutual respect.
Neil Smith
Vice President 50% owner Ashron Transport Inc.
President owner of Ashron Freight Services Inc.
Ashron sounds pretty honest
Ashron,
I applaud your honesty...not too many people would stand up and show themselves under such circumstances. We hear all too often on this board how so many disreputable brokers stretch payments to carriers to 60+ days or even worse, file for bankruptcy and then open up under another name. Hopefully, the carriers that don't seem to have been paid by Ashron Transport will give you a call and you can work something out because it sounds like you're trying to pay them what they are owed.
Ashron,
I applaud your honesty...not too many people would stand up and show themselves under such circumstances. We hear all too often on this board how so many disreputable brokers stretch payments to carriers to 60+ days or even worse, file for bankruptcy and then open up under another name. Hopefully, the carriers that don't seem to have been paid by Ashron Transport will give you a call and you can work something out because it sounds like you're trying to pay them what they are owed.
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ashron,
Well, since you asked... I don't "rip" people for no reason and no, there's no pleasure in getting the runaround when collecting bills.
In reference to our previous collection experience with your company, there were no problems with your dispatcher and my driver was never sent in to pick up a cheque. The issue was inaccurate payment information given by your a/p staff and also by you. When someone says they will mail a cheque next week, and then says the same thing the week after, you begin to wonder about their ability to commit.
It is not a good sign when you have to call and ask for the owner of the company and tell him you are prepared to call his customer because he hasn't paid you and his staff is giving out inaccurate payment information.
And yes, I was "eventually" paid. I received my cheques at 69 and 73 days from invoice date, but the real issue was communication. If I had been given accurate information when I initially called your office about when my cheque would be mailed, you most likely would never have heard from me again.
In regards to the rest of your comments I say Bawk Bawk Bawk...
Well, since you asked... I don't "rip" people for no reason and no, there's no pleasure in getting the runaround when collecting bills.
In reference to our previous collection experience with your company, there were no problems with your dispatcher and my driver was never sent in to pick up a cheque. The issue was inaccurate payment information given by your a/p staff and also by you. When someone says they will mail a cheque next week, and then says the same thing the week after, you begin to wonder about their ability to commit.
It is not a good sign when you have to call and ask for the owner of the company and tell him you are prepared to call his customer because he hasn't paid you and his staff is giving out inaccurate payment information.
And yes, I was "eventually" paid. I received my cheques at 69 and 73 days from invoice date, but the real issue was communication. If I had been given accurate information when I initially called your office about when my cheque would be mailed, you most likely would never have heard from me again.
In regards to the rest of your comments I say Bawk Bawk Bawk...
When will people grow up? Bawk Bawk Bawk? Seriously? How about you guys take care of your business together personally instead of trying to bash someone online. This is childish. He is telling you to call him so why don't you?
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I don't want or need to call him. Our business together was done in 2009. I was brought back into this because I responded to the original poster's question about payment info on Ashron. I respond to these information requests whenever I have information to give as I am very appreciative of the information that I have taken from this forum.
As for the Bawk Bawk Bawk, as you can see my name is Johnny-Chicken and my bawking was in response to Ashron going on and on like an old hen with a bunch of personal information about himself that nobody wants or needs to hear.
Let's keep to the subject matter here people. Someone asked for payment information on Ashron, I responded with information as did others. THAT is the purpose of this site and that is what makes it so great.
If companies pay their bills in reasonable time frames and give accurate information when asked, they will not have to deal with other companies seeking information and discussing things about them in online forums such as this.
Thank you and good day!
As for the Bawk Bawk Bawk, as you can see my name is Johnny-Chicken and my bawking was in response to Ashron going on and on like an old hen with a bunch of personal information about himself that nobody wants or needs to hear.
Let's keep to the subject matter here people. Someone asked for payment information on Ashron, I responded with information as did others. THAT is the purpose of this site and that is what makes it so great.
If companies pay their bills in reasonable time frames and give accurate information when asked, they will not have to deal with other companies seeking information and discussing things about them in online forums such as this.
Thank you and good day!
Ashron - Johnny Chicken
Dear Johnny Chicken,
I don't want to argue with you endlessly whoever you are. I don't think "I" ever gave you the runaround, but I can't be 100% sure because I don't know who you are. I am quite certain that I did not, however, because at that time last year we weren't really that behind on our bills. And I can assure you, if I said I was sending a cheque, it went out. Maybe you spoke to Dena in AP or my partner, Leo, but like I said earlier, I never even dealt with you at the time, I only replied to your post well after the fact.
You made a post on this sight below that said "don't waste your time with Neil . . ." This is a libelous statement considering you and I have probably never actually personally discussed a payment issue other than the after-the-fact post I referred to. I don't care if you say Ashron Transport gave you the runaround or that we are paying our bills slowly - while I disagree that we were AT THE TIME this is no secret currently and if you read my posts you will see I have not tried to hide our financial troubles. If/when you attack me personally, publicly and without grounds, this is another story. Please keep your negative personal comments to yourself - you don't know me.
Neil
Ashron Transport VP 50% owner
Ashron Freight Services Inc. President 100% owner
Dear Johnny Chicken,
I don't want to argue with you endlessly whoever you are. I don't think "I" ever gave you the runaround, but I can't be 100% sure because I don't know who you are. I am quite certain that I did not, however, because at that time last year we weren't really that behind on our bills. And I can assure you, if I said I was sending a cheque, it went out. Maybe you spoke to Dena in AP or my partner, Leo, but like I said earlier, I never even dealt with you at the time, I only replied to your post well after the fact.
You made a post on this sight below that said "don't waste your time with Neil . . ." This is a libelous statement considering you and I have probably never actually personally discussed a payment issue other than the after-the-fact post I referred to. I don't care if you say Ashron Transport gave you the runaround or that we are paying our bills slowly - while I disagree that we were AT THE TIME this is no secret currently and if you read my posts you will see I have not tried to hide our financial troubles. If/when you attack me personally, publicly and without grounds, this is another story. Please keep your negative personal comments to yourself - you don't know me.
Neil
Ashron Transport VP 50% owner
Ashron Freight Services Inc. President 100% owner
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As noted above - let's stick to payment information as per the original starter thread. These postings are going off tangent here.....
We have all the "2 cents" we need now - move along people....
Ashron Johnny Chicken
Wrong on a couple of points Johnny Chicken.
First, business is business, but there is no business without humans. There is often a human element behind business disputes and often the disputes are blown out of proportion because the human element is not taken into consideration. I gave the info I did so that people reading can have a better understanding of our professional and my personal situation. If they don't want to see or hear my posts, they can skip them, but for anyone who wants a background, it is there for the reading. I don't think you are the to decide what other people want or need to hear - if this was the case, we would be submitting our posts to your for screening before going on the board.
Second, you didn't simply respond that we paid you slowly, you made a personal attack on my integrity. I won't accept it and I will reply with the number of words necessary to defend myself againt any anonymous attack any day of the week. The purpose of the board is not to take gatuitious pot shots at people we don't agree with.
Keep knocking me unfairly and I will keep replying aggressively. Make legitmate comments and I may reply with an explanation depending on the situation.
Neil
Wrong on a couple of points Johnny Chicken.
First, business is business, but there is no business without humans. There is often a human element behind business disputes and often the disputes are blown out of proportion because the human element is not taken into consideration. I gave the info I did so that people reading can have a better understanding of our professional and my personal situation. If they don't want to see or hear my posts, they can skip them, but for anyone who wants a background, it is there for the reading. I don't think you are the to decide what other people want or need to hear - if this was the case, we would be submitting our posts to your for screening before going on the board.
Second, you didn't simply respond that we paid you slowly, you made a personal attack on my integrity. I won't accept it and I will reply with the number of words necessary to defend myself againt any anonymous attack any day of the week. The purpose of the board is not to take gatuitious pot shots at people we don't agree with.
Keep knocking me unfairly and I will keep replying aggressively. Make legitmate comments and I may reply with an explanation depending on the situation.
Neil
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