Cheap Freight of the day

I guess I would be running back to Indiana or Ohio to client freight. That is our plan next week guy headed for DFW if rates suck head for our freight in TN.. I am guessing TN here we come based off what I am seeing and hearing..
Yep, pretty much the plan. I'm usually not so rude to brokers but I told him let it rot for 95 cents a mile.
 
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Check this one out. I was doing my best to be nice. Read from bottom it is an email thread ( short one)

320 what ounces of silver?? If it is dollars give your head a shake or better yet get out of the freaking business. That would not even pay my driver.









Thanks



Rob Gavin,



Gavin Transportation Systems Limited

109 Roy Blvd

Unit 1

Brantford ON

N3R7K1











From: loads@freightwatch.mail.parade.ai <loads@freightwatch.mail.parade.ai>
Sent: August 20, 2026 4:01 PM
To: Rob Gavin
Subject: Re: Milton WI- Brampton Monday?



Our rate is $320, can you cover it?

  • Reference ID: 111030
  • Equipment: VAN
  • Stops:
    • Origin: MILTON, WI on 08/24/2026 at 0900 CDT
    • Destination: BRAMPTON, ON on 08/25/2026
  • Commodity: PLASTIC FILM
  • Weight: 44,000 lb



-Freightwatch Sales Team
 
Check this one out. I was doing my best to be nice. Read from bottom it is an email thread ( short one)

320 what ounces of silver?? If it is dollars give your head a shake or better yet get out of the freaking business. That would not even pay my driver.









Thanks



Rob Gavin,



Gavin Transportation Systems Limited

109 Roy Blvd

Unit 1

Brantford ON

N3R7K1











From: loads@freightwatch.mail.parade.ai <loads@freightwatch.mail.parade.ai>
Sent: August 20, 2026 4:01 PM
To: Rob Gavin
Subject: Re: Milton WI- Brampton Monday?



Our rate is $320, can you cover it?

  • Reference ID: 111030
  • Equipment: VAN
  • Stops:
    • Origin: MILTON, WI on 08/24/2026 at 0900 CDT
    • Destination: BRAMPTON, ON on 08/25/2026
  • Commodity: PLASTIC FILM
  • Weight: 44,000 lb



-Freightwatch Sales Team
Reasonable rate if it was Milton Ontario..
 
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The most embarrassing aspect of this shit show is that they actually put the ridiculous rate in writing! Yikes. Maybe 1 skid, but 44K…..something ain’t right.
 
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I did a literal "wait - what??" when I read this. How big are your balls to even toss this out there? I'm a broker and this crap makes my blood boil. If I were in the dispatcher chair I don't think I could refrain from having the sex and travel talk.

On behalf of us brokers who actually care and want the carriers to be successful so I can keep my job - I am so, so sorry.
 
I did a literal "wait - what??" when I read this. How big are your balls to even toss this out there? I'm a broker and this crap makes my blood boil. If I were in the dispatcher chair I don't think I could refrain from having the sex and travel talk.

On behalf of us brokers who actually care and want the carriers to be successful so I can keep my job - I am so, so sorry.
Really well said Brenda - I am of the very same opinion. I treat the carriers that work for me as an extension of me, which they are. I respect them, and their time - I pay them for it accordingly.
 
Really well said Brenda - I am of the very same opinion. I treat the carriers that work for me as an extension of me, which they are. I respect them, and their time - I pay them for it accordingly.
100%. We treat it like a partnership because at the end of the day, that's what it is. When I'm sitting on my retirement porch sipping my coffee, I'd like to look back and fondly remember all the folks that I did great business with, not man - did I ever screw that guy over. Who knows NTravels, maybe we are the suckers in this game.
 
As someone who is sitting back on their porch in their rocking chair sipping….hmmmm not coffee, it’s after 10am, you are absolutely right. Although not completely retired, I do think back and remember all the great partners I have dealt with over the past 35 years. Without their contribution, I would not be in this position. Sure there were lots of snags and hiccups along the way and sometimes, right, royal cluster f***s, but the laughs, friendships and genuine, good relationships more than make up for it. Business, especially good business, is always a two-way street.
 
As someone who is sitting back on their porch in their rocking chair sipping….hmmmm not coffee, it’s after 10am, you are absolutely right. Although not completely retired, I do think back and remember all the great partners I have dealt with over the past 35 years. Without their contribution, I would not be in this position. Sure there were lots of snags and hiccups along the way and sometimes, right, royal cluster f***s, but the laughs, friendships and genuine, good relationships more than make up for it. Business, especially good business, is always a two-way street.
 
100%. We treat it like a partnership because at the end of the day, that's what it is. When I'm sitting on my retirement porch sipping my coffee, I'd like to look back and fondly remember all the folks that I did great business with, not man - did I ever screw that guy over. Who knows NTravels, maybe we are the suckers in this game.
Nah, we're not suckers - we respect people - in business, and in life. There's no shame in that. The carriers I have worked with over the years regularly come asking for work, and give me positive feedback about their experience working with me. When as you put it, retired and shipping my coffee (or other), I will most definitely look back at my life in logistics fondly - I've made some great friends along the way as well.
 
How are carriers in ON running a profit or breaking even?
The rates to ON don't even cover fuel at this point - my regular load out of OK got pushed out and I'm getting offered CAD2600 to ON ... fuel+CCP+EI+Vacc pay+admin costs !!!! do trucks in ON run on water?
 
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How are carriers in ON running a profit or breaking even?
The rates to ON don't even cover fuel at this point - my regular load out of OK got pushed out and I'm getting offered CAD2600 to ON ... fuel+CCP+EI+Vacc pay+admin costs !!!! do trucks in ON run on water?
I think another year before the rest of the Brampton trash takes itself out. Then rates should come back to normal. (whatever the fuck that is)
 
I think another year before the rest of the Brampton trash takes itself out. Then rates should come back to normal. (whatever the fuck that is)
I'm not so sure. There's a couple of things we have to think about ...

Tariffs are the big one. I don't think anyone is really sure how this one is going to shake out, and unfortunately our current government has, for the moment anyways, decided to fight a war it has absolutely no chance of winning.
It could be that transportation goes on as normal and the economy simply gets more expensive. Or, it could be that cross border transportation completely disappears, and all those trucks enter the domestic market.
If it's the former, then rates will creep upwards as attrition, immigration, and U.S. rules (like ELP) take their toll.
If it's the latter. well, then we got us a real dog fight on our hands, and frankly, I don't think there will be any winners. The Canadian transportation sector, as we know it today, will disappear.

The next biggest hurdle is immigration. If overall immigration numbers go down, current work visas are allowed to expire without renewal, then the driving force contracts, and the used equipment market expands, resulting in rates increasing over time. There is a double edge to this sword though. If rates get to be high enough, U.S. domiciled trucks will start re-entering the market.

Then there is Driver Inc. and Facility Insurance. Both are being worked on by governments and industry alike.
Slowly but surely governments are auditing Driver Inc. fleets on an ever increasing basis, and they are making headway. However, I don't think they had a clue as to how prevalent the practice was and are finding themselves severely undermanned for the amount of audits they have to do.
Facility Insurance and Government Insurance (yes, I'm looking at you Manitoba & BC) have got to go. My personal belief, and it is supported by others, is that Facility Insurance has no place in the commercial space, and Government insurance should not expose an entire population to the carelessness of one single person.

So, as we all sit here at this moment, it's a roll of the dice as to what happens. We will get a better sense of direction after the U.S. midterm elections, and further insight as we enter Q1 '27.

In the meantime, each of us should seriously consider offering up some prayers to whatever Gods we believe in for a better day tomorrow, and the hope that we make it there.
 
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When I was in the business, my marketing strategy was working with customers in the US almost entirely. With what is going on, I am especially happy not to be in this boat now. I feel it may be devastating.
 
As evidenced by the various comments (mostly negative) regarding the current state of transportation here in Canada, I believe it is the huge degree of uncertainly about what the current US administration will do next, that is fuelling this abundance of caution.This new climate of anticipation and anxiety is being felt in every industry, not just trucking. In “normal” times, we could all assume that negotiated and signed trade deals would continue to be honoured, that the recognized rules of international trade would be respected and adhered to and that any changes would take place around the negotiating table as opposed to the big desk in the Oval Office. Personally, I am not as pessimistic as some appear to be. There will be a trade deal struck between Canada and the US in the near future and it will require some concessions on our part, perhaps a few less on the US. When it does happen, everyone will be looking to claim victory. Obviously Trump will boast how he bent and broke the Canadians, our government will insist it’s a good deal, which it most likely will be, and the opposition will claim that the government caved and that they could have done a better job. After all that dust settles, life will continue and trucks will still be pounding up and down the highway. All of the other topics that Michael mentioned will continue to be critical to our industry, regardless of the outcome of the trade negotiations.