Elphege Joyal 1989 Inc
- Thread starter Watchdog
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What do you mean by Looking to do a load for them? I thought he is a carrier not a broker. I have given them many loads. Dealt with Frank.
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Shakey
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they've been around since 1989, they could have their own clients I wouldn't assume double brokering.
Seems others above looking for payment terms as well.
Seems others above looking for payment terms as well.
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A lot of us carriers have direct customers and sell excess as well. Heck some weeks i sell more than i haul on my own equipment. Whatever it takes to keep the customer happy.
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Exactly, I posted a load from our customer on the link, and a carrier called in and asked what broker the load was from lol. Not all of us live off of broker freight.
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A carrier who brokers his own, direct customers freight isn’t the problem (provided of course that he has the proper licensing and bond to do so legally), the problem lies with carriers who accept freight from a broker and then rebooked that freight with another carrier. I know that the respectable, professional carriers, many of whom appear on this site regularly, would not knowingly participate in any type of double broker scheme. If they accepted a shipment from a broker and then discovered that they didn’t have the capacity to move it, they would immediately notify the broker and have an honest and open discussion about what options are available. We all know that problems can occur, trucks break, drivers get sick, etc., etc.. , however it is always the best business practice to advise the broker who gave you the freight of any changes and let them make the final decision about who ultimately hauls the load.
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Shakey
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details please if this is fact and you have caught them. I haven't used much but we have not had issue with them not showing up and loading anything we have given them.
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@loaders I love the line about proper licensing and bond. That is a good one. How many broker have it and how many have the required trust account. My guess on the ppwk end about 75% and on trust maybe 1 in a thousand. 75 or 100k bond is a joke any decent broker that is what a week or two max? Want teeth try a 5 million bond to actually protect carriers then your talking.
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I can’t speak for any other brokers, but those who are members of the NTBA here in Canada, or TIA in the US, are all required to have both the proper FMCSA licensing and surety bond. It is an easy thing to check before agreeing to provide your services. I agree, the 75k surety bond is rather low and a higher amount would provide a greater level of protection, however it is better than nothing. Why a carrier would choose to do business with an unlicensed freight broker is beyond me. Would a broker do business with an unlicensed carrier? I certainly hope not. If you can reduce or minimize your risk of non payment even slightly, with no added cost, why wouldn’t you?
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