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Today's thought provoking question ...
- Thread starter Michael Ludwig
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Because government has not mandated it. Until they do, if vehicle manufacturers do not feel that a customer will go for the extra cost, they will not install them cross board. 
Igor Galanter
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Great question.
As far as cost goes... I don't think the consumer would even feel it. the cost of digital cameras and a short term recording method is next to nothing anymore. Auto makers would buy so many of these that the cost would be reduced.
The potential savings on courts and lawsuits would greatly out weigh the cost of the camera and recording device.
As far as cost goes... I don't think the consumer would even feel it. the cost of digital cameras and a short term recording method is next to nothing anymore. Auto makers would buy so many of these that the cost would be reduced.
The potential savings on courts and lawsuits would greatly out weigh the cost of the camera and recording device.
Nawk, you’re bang on. With the abolishment of e-tests, maybe the gov’t should look at required dashcam installations in order to renew stickers?
It would probably make more sense for the insurance companies to refund you the cost of a dash cam. They are the ones who would benefit the most from the proof it could provide to lower their exposure.
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I personally think Justin's days as a leader of people are pretty much over. My concern would be the NDP takes power next. Their new leader, Jagmeet Singh, is a quite a speaker. Too bad he wasn't a conservative ... LOL. Regardless, an NDP government isn't too likely to be good for anybody.
Anyways, back to mandatory dash cams. Not only would it drastically reduce insurance cost, think of the time it would save the courts. Less policing costs. Less insurance costs. Less everything costs. Imagine how well behaved drivers would become knowing full well that nearly every other vehicle on the road has a dash cam that is recording them doing stupid sh*t ... LOL
I am sure there will be the hue and cry of "big brother's watching" and all that privacy crap. It's widely known now that people are on one camera or another for a goodly part of their public day, especially if they are in a major urban center, and it's only going to increase.
Anyways, back to mandatory dash cams. Not only would it drastically reduce insurance cost, think of the time it would save the courts. Less policing costs. Less insurance costs. Less everything costs. Imagine how well behaved drivers would become knowing full well that nearly every other vehicle on the road has a dash cam that is recording them doing stupid sh*t ... LOL
I am sure there will be the hue and cry of "big brother's watching" and all that privacy crap. It's widely known now that people are on one camera or another for a goodly part of their public day, especially if they are in a major urban center, and it's only going to increase.
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There is also a "privacy" issue regarding dash cams and all the other activity the cam picks up not relevant to motorists on the road. Similar reason as to why photo radar didn't last. It was catching not only license plate information but photos of the occupants in the vehicle. I guess not everyone liked to have their picture taken when they didn't "authorize" it. Funny how many European countries still utilize photo radar for speeding and red light running...but the minute it comes to Ontario and someone "complains" about it - it's gone.
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We have cameras in all of our trucks and I wouldn't let one operate without them now but I don't have 1 in my personal vehicle, I might have to change that.
I think that everyone should expect any no privacy in a public place. One should expect that the road, the sidewalk, the front of your house, all has a potential camera pointing toward it at any time for any number of reasons. I don't believe privacy is an issue for dash cams being installed for OEM.
I think the issue is that technology constantly changes and methods of extracting the video are all over the map (Bluetooth, SIM card, IOT) that the OEMs do not want to put something in place that they have to service. OEM's are waiting for some consistency in the products and some type of 'protocol' for extracting the video securely. They are always looking for some add-ons that they can offer to upsell a vehicle and that is why most new cars come equipped with GPS.
The same is true with OEM installed HOS devices - there are too many to choose from and who knows what will be the next best thing. They are now relying on the HOS devices using a standard-plug in that the OEM can provide much like the 9Pin connection in the truck. I order all our trucks with an additional plug in the dash so I can hook directly to it without having to tear the truck apart and saves about an hour of install time.
I have recommended that OEMs put USB plugs in the ceiling above the windshield so that we can connect items like 3rd party cameras or GPS units. I also recommended something affixed to the body where we can hang 3rd party devices instead of using suction cups. In a car it would be as easy as a ball attachment on the rear view mirror that 3rd party electronics can sell.