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Loads done the 11th August 2009, 6400$ in freight movements.

This date: 23 of December of 2009

Still no payment. Customer has been advised after 120 days, and we are close to 160+ of waiting and still no promises of any cheques to come in.

Up until a month ago, we we're beeing told it was in the cheques that needed to be signed and mailed. A month later, still no news and constant phone calls have been made.

They have the reputation of a 90day+ company, but we said to ourself, we're stuck lets do it. But after all, I would strongly advise you not to deal with them period.
 
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We have very same situation. Their account payable is never available and administration is always hiding behinde reception.
We were promised to be payed in November but still there is nothing in the mail.
Everyone MUST have them in DNU.
 
Another "carrier" that doesn't pay it's bills -- we had Camlane listed in our system as a carrier and we have given them loads in the past. But it seems they are re-brokering and not paying the carriers. A "carrier" not paying a carrier?!
 
Interesting comment Mellaw "a carrier not paying a carrier". In most cases a "carrier's" focus is on filling their own trucks day-in and day-out and try to squeek out a profit. To do that, they must pay drivers on a schedule, pay fuel bills and repairs promptly, truck/trailer payments, etc., etc. Obviously, when these bills hit the payables desk, they must be taken care of or the whole operation grinds to a halt. I am not so sure however, when another carriers bill for services rendered arrives, it receives the same prompt attention. It seems to me, that a carrier who regularly brokers freight is really wearing two hats, a difficult juggling act to do at the best of times.
 
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Interesting comment Mellaw "a carrier not paying a carrier". In most cases a "carrier's" focus is on filling their own trucks day-in and day-out and try to squeek out a profit. To do that, they must pay drivers on a schedule, pay fuel bills and repairs promptly, truck/trailer payments, etc., etc. Obviously, when these bills hit the payables desk, they must be taken care of or the whole operation grinds to a halt. I am not so sure however, when another carriers bill for services rendered arrives, it receives the same prompt attention. It seems to me, that a carrier who regularly brokers freight is really wearing two hats, a difficult juggling act to do at the best of times.
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Carrier should not get into brokerage business if he doesnt have enough funds to support it! What people dont understand is that you cannot run a brokerage company with $15 in your bank account. You have to have enough bank balance to pay the carriers on time if your customer is 5 days late paying you. You need money to make money, You need money to keep your good reputaion. If a carrier is using someone else's money to pay his own bills then he is doing something wrong. Robbing peter to pay paul is not business its " Monkey business"
We are a carrier and a brokerage business with two seperate banks accounts! the day we get into our brokerage account to pay my repair bills is the day i close my transport and stick only to brokerage!!!!!
 
Exactly my point flatbeder007! If the funds are kept separate from each other, there will never be the temptation to use brokerage money (really money belonging to the carrier who did the work) to pay repair, insurance, licensing or any other costs related to running a trucking company. Your set-up is the correct one. I would be interested to know how many other carriers who broker freight follow your same procedure. From the number of postings on this site complaining about non or slow payment from carriers, it seems to be very few.
 
I couldn't agree more with you guys. Thats the biggest mistake in the game. If 80% of an invoice belongs to a carrier for doing the work, never should you be touching that 80%, NEVER!

Yet we carriers have to support 160 days of pay, of fuel, of this and that for what? because others have poor managment skills? and its more common than you think.
 
The trick is to get good customers who pay fiar rates within 30 day payment terms. When you've got that all the other problems go away. i.e. you don't have to worry about robbing Peter for Paul nor do you have to have alot of money to get going. I started my business with less than a thousand bucks to my name...never had any cashflow problems becuase I made sure I got good accounts who paid their bills promptly.
 
We gave them a shipment some time ago and they invoiced us directly. No factoring company. We pay our bills in 30 days though so some times we get invoiced directly from carriers that use factoring companies because they know they will get paid on time and they don't take the % hit on the invoice.
 
Considering that their largest customer is the Dept of National Defence, they definitely have been paid for the loads they rebrokered to carriers - heck - look at the DND bill of lading and you will even see the markup they made.

Months ago I suggested to at a minimum, unpaid carrriers should report to Link about them, but did anyone ??(I did)
 
almost sure that they got booted from National Defence for brokering to anyone with a pulse. Does anyone know if they use a factoring co? I do have a reason for asking.
 
Pulling for DND is no badge of honour. Blubird used to double broker that freight for years before they went under.
 
Nope they have been gone from Patterson rd for a while. Word on the street is the moved out in the night from Brock st. I believe they were in with Premier Van lines.
 
rumour is that the bailiff came in and seized his equipment phone rings but no answer or voicemail.....
 
Was in Barrie earlier today, went by the yard on Brock St.
Nothing left but memories..........
 
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