RDX on Loadlink for BC to AB: "GUYS DONT BOOK ANY LOAD UNDER 9000$"

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BC is in a state of emergency, 5 people have died in the mud slides, many people are displaced from their homes, fuel is being rationed, shelves are empty in some grocery stores and this is the response from RDX Royal Drivers Xpress:

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This will push freight rates even higher and beyond the mechanics of supply and demand.

This is not the intended purpose of Loadlink -- this post needs to be removed and prevented from ever appearing again.
 
YIKES. Definitely not appropriate to be posted on the link. If you call and report it, LoadLink will address them and remove the posting.
 
Loadlink staff members get a report every week with companies that post in the comment sections. They go through the list and will call the companies that are posting things they should not be in the comment section. But a call to them should maybe be made to be aware
 
We did report to Loadlink, they said they will pass on the complaint to the appropriate team.

So far this week, Metro Vancouver to Calgary via WA is $7000 - $7500 CAD for dry.

There are a few outliers at $8,000 CAD and $7,200 USD
 
Not if you're an animal.
Aren't we on Moreau's island?

WA>PA 9USD for the last decade
BC>QC 7000CAD for the last decade

Where are the morals there?

Oh; you're moral always and it's just you believe that the time spent by a Canadian driver is worth significantly less than the same time spent by an American driver?

Kinda funny that morals come up in economics when it's your ass that's on fire.

The animals are those who have multiple moral standards when they deal with different parties.
 
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Don't confuse morals with the market.. i.e. WA to PA for 9USD.. feel free to charge a different rate if you so desire. Who cares about morals.. its just shortsighted bad business to take advantage of a bad situation . Sure, you'll do well in the short term, but once things settle down every shipper you gouged will return the favour by avoiding you like the black plaque.. again.. nothing to do with morals.. just smart business.
 
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I am looking for some current information regarding the over the road conditions into and out of BC. Some insight from carriers who are involved this lane would really be helpful. I am not looking for rates here, just some up to date info to pass along to a few of our customers who anxious to get their freight moving again. The rates will be what the rates will be, so just an idea of what you are seeing on ground would be great. Thanks guys and gals!
 
I booked Quick Haul Express LTD out of Surrey BC on Monday for $6000 CDN as they told me they still needed to go through the US and move in bond for a load from Vancouver, BC to Edmonton, AB, Dry Freight. They ended up sending the shipper a link to their tracking on the trailer which shows the truck took the normal roads, when my client called me about adjusting the rate due this I called Quick Hauls and they denied it and said you still have to take the US roads and move in bond, which is one false now and also we clearly see they are lying since they suppled the GPS tracking. They knew when booking they wouldn't need to go bonded through the US, but still tried to take advantage of the what is going on.
 
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This is exactly the type of horror story I want to avoid exposing my customers to. Again, if there are any carriers operating into and out of BC currently, what are the conditions of the highways? I can appreciate that probably all of them are backed up with their own freight, however do they feel that the highways are slowly coming back to regular operations, or not? I really want to provide our clients with some real time info if at all possible.
 
This is exactly the type of horror story I want to avoid exposing my customers to. Again, if there are any carriers operating into and out of BC currently, what are the conditions of the highways? I can appreciate that probably all of them are backed up with their own freight, however do they feel that the highways are slowly coming back to regular operations, or not? I really want to provide our clients with some real time info if at all possible.
We are sporadic - in and out of BC - so far have not need to go inbond ... that was in the early days.
But transit time is longer due to slow traffic and detours - also putting chains on and off
 
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All of our clients who ship to the West coast seem to be very much aware of the road closures, detours, etc.. What I am looking for is solid, factual information to justify the extremely high rates being thrown around in the marketplace. As the poster above mentioned, they did not need to travel thru the US in bond. Is that what others are finding? A week or so, that was what we were told is driving the rates up, extra miles. I am trying to get the right information I need as a broker, to A) obtain fair rates for my customer, and B) be able to explain knowledgeably why the current rates are remaining at these high levels. Just trying to get a little transparency.
 
@loaders I would send drivers via the US whenever possible. Hwy 3 was not designed for the volume of commercial traffic currently on the road plus if the driver's do not have winter mountain experience don't send them. Prior to the road closures the only trucks consistently taking Hwy 3 were the old school truckers who like to use all their gears and tend to drive long nose Pete's. They travel Hwy 3 to avoid the less experienced driver's that stick to Hwy 1 and the Coquihalla

We are sending drivers in bond using the relaxed rules and a bond is not required but this only applies to Western Canada ports.

If you want to cross from Ontario it will have to go in bond and there are issues with FDA depending on the commodity.

As to the current rates there are additional costs for the extra miles and longer hours via Hwy 3 or the US but there are other costs that are not as readily apparent.

Many drivers are refusing to take Hwy 3 and are not working or left early for their winter break to avoid the snow. The result is their company trucks are sitting idle but the companies still have lease payments and insurance payments.

For BC to AB, pre-flooding, drivers would get 2 - 2.5 rounder's per week legally, some are only getting 1 due to the length of additional time it takes due to congestion.

The general rate increase from BC started in the late summer / early fall with the surge of container freight. As the container rates increased up to 400% the steamship lines demanded their containers get unloaded immediately so they could send the empties back to get reloaded or they sent the container over the road instead of rail and paid round trip plus a premium. In either case the container freight went over the road adding to capacity issues.

But having said that, in my opinion, the recent rate increase is mostly supply and demand plus a bit of greed. I only mention the greed as I had a shipper add a second drop on a load and the carrier asked for an additional $500. The extra drop was only a few pallets, a quick off load and near the first drop. Keep in mind this was on top of the $6000 paid for a dry load from Vancouver to Calgary.

When I ask truckers about the recent increase they tend to point out extra costs, fuel, and driver shortage but I get the impression they think this is a long overdue market correction especially after the drubbing carriers received on rates in 2020 when the pandemic set in and fuel dropped.

Good luck with your customers as mine are not very impressed with the rates and the quality of service has dropped on some lanes
 
The real reason is supply and demand.

WESTCAN carriers as of late have 35 calls for every single 1 equipment posting and 15 calls a day from their regular brokers looking for trucks with infinite cash to book the equipment

Us brokers use this notion to our advantage every single hour of the day.

A perfect example of this is when we post a shipment and get 50 calls- somehow each time we answer the phone said load gets 250 usd cheaper each time till someone finally says send to me

Bottom line is that I have got to be the cheapest broker in Canada and im still paying 15k usd to gta nd 17k usd to mtl

Some customers had to ship from other suppliers on the east coast because they cant afford bc anymore. Others who can still do
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its nothing personal this is business

As long as there is no deception or unethical behaviors trucks always go to the highest bidder...
 
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