Need feedback from CARRIERS not brokers

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theman

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Hi,

Regarding outbound freight,

Are we not getting the trucks out .... or is there just too much inbound to support the outbound.

I'm thinking the tight supply problem is going to get worse and I want to think of some options to get through the spring.

Thanks.
 
Our trucks are hopping it is tough to get them out but they do all move and inbound is great because I do think the balance is out of whack more inbound than outbound. Don't tell anybody because people will start adding trucks.
 
It's definitely out of whack. It's not even really produce season yet. It almost doesn't matter where, there is just too much inbound.

I think trucks will need to be added, but I think it's the Americans who will be more likely to add them ... it's a real big risk to run trucks southbound empty.

We're probably going to have to become more strict on our policy of no inbound, no outbound. It's crazy out there.
 
We're probably going to have to become more strict on our policy of no inbound, no outbound. It's crazy out there.[/QUOTE]



So does this mean as a carrier if you do not give me outbound I should tell you to go pound salt or really put it to you - which would you prefer?

If this is the general broker thought out there and I have read this statement on here before this spring it's the carriers turn.

Jack up the rates boys and girls to all brokers that don't give you outbound!! To all the azzhats cutting the rates to a buck a mile outbound it is now..................who hoooo!
 
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There are a group of brokers who endorse this policy, personally, I'm not opposed if they are a)reputable b) pay their bills on time) and c) pay market rate coming back. I would prefer to work with a known entity in both directions rather than potentially taking my chances with someone we've never dealt (on the inbound leg) with who happens to be paying an extra 50 bucks.

If they fail the above criterion,.....let the freight sit. I know that "you really don't have any more in it"...but that doesn't justify me being foolish enough to lose money so that who ever is moving the load (whether broker or carrier) gets to save face and not show a little red ink.
 
How is this any different then when it was the other way of not enough inbound a few years ago?

Rob, are your rates for inbound the same as what they were before the reverse of the outbound being the headhaul. Probably not. Not saying you are one of them but there are several carriers out there that are asking ridiculous rates for inbound but want a higher then average rate on outbound stating they won't run for the lower outbound rate.

As a broker, we give first opportunity of outbound to our inbound carriers. That is part of a relationship between a broker and preferred carriers. If the carrier is fair on the inbound then we are fair on the outbound.

This supply and demand thing is not new. Let's face it, even your best customers are looking at their bottom line and are constantly looking at competitive rates.
 
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As long as the rates are fair, we don't mind doing a round trip. As for too much inbound. I haven't seen that yet on my end.
 
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