Inbound Outbound - Difference?

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Gdunks

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Want opinons on this.

I had a carrier pick up a load for me in Chicago going to Montreal he wanted $2200 for the load. No problem. When he got to the receiver in Montreal they realized they shipped the wrong load. Shippers fault. My client asked me to bring it back to Chicago and of course they would pay for it. I offered the carrier two options: bring it back to Chicago and I would pay him $1400 (which I find is fair to go outbound to Chicago). Or - bring it to my warehouse in Montreal - which was 5 KM away from where he was - and I would give him an extra $200.

He told me "no" - that he would bring it to Chicago, but I had to pay him the same rate I gave him from Chicago to Montreal at $2200. He is refusing to do anything until I agree to that. I even offered to pay $1600 to Chicago and he still said "no" - stating the going rate to Chicago is $2200 - same as the inbound.

I have been doing this for a long time and I know that this is not the case. I'm I missing something here?
 
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Hi Gdunks,

You offered him a good outbound rate to bring back. Plus a good rate to deliver to your warehouse. Call his insurance company and tell them you're putting a claim in for lost product/load.

Then you'll see how fast he will deliver.
All the best!
 
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He is actually refusing to give you the load back until you agree to pay him what he wants to take the load back to IL? That is ludacris! How does he figure he can "hold a gun to your head" in this situation when it was an OPTION. To boot, he is doing some serious hard core drugs if he thinks the rate to IL is $2.52/mile. As a carrier, I wish we could get that, but unfortunately not...I agree with the last post, call the insurance a.s.a.p. and remedy this. I also think that you should post his company name so the rest of us can watch for it! Good luck, keep us posted.

Sandy
 
I could move 10 loads a day for $2200 from Chicago. I would like to know the name of the carrier so I can make sure to blacklist him in our system. Also your rate of $1600 is more than fair. I'm gonna assume you used an American carrier and he realized there was no outbound freight and tried to screw you.
 
OK. So we carriers sit here and b*tch and moan about brokers and shippers not being fair, and then a carrier has the kahunas to try something like this....
Kinda makes you wonder why any of us are in this business eh?
Gdunks, this guy is being totally unethical. I would pay him by the hour to crossdock it somewhere, anywhere, then never ever consider using him again, even if he was the only truck left on the planet.
 
This carrier is being unreasonable. You have offered 2 very fair choices to him/her. $200 for a 5 mile redirect is a fair price or the choice to take it back for a fair rate. Can't see why they are being greedy.
 
Wouldn't be the first time I heard something like that. There are those out there who decide the best way to make a buck is to kick someone when they're down.

I would have told him to take it to a cross dock, and sayonara.
 
you mind pointing out who the carrier is, for everyone's info?
 
Gdunks said:
Want opinons on this.

I had a carrier pick up a load for me in Chicago going to Montreal he wanted $2200 for the load. No problem. When he got to the receiver in Montreal they realized they shipped the wrong load. Shippers fault. My client asked me to bring it back to Chicago and of course they would pay for it. I offered the carrier two options Bring it back to Chicago and I would pay him $1400 which I find is fair to go outbound to Chicago or bring it to my warehouse in Montreal which was 5 KM away from were he was and I would give him an extra $200. He told me no that he would bring it to Chicago, but I had to pay him the same rate I gave him from Chicago to Montreal at $2200. He is refusing to do anything until I agree to that. I even offered to pay $1600 to chicago and he still said nostating the going rate to chicago is $2200 same as the inbound. I have been doing this for a long time and I know that this is not the case. I'm I missing something here?
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OMG, this sounds just like automotive freight. NLM uses that logic and lets it's carriers bid the same price inbound and outbound. I used to do loads from Belleville to Chicago and then back to Belleville for $1600 each way for Ford. The best way to look at it is what the round trip rate should be. It's like 1700 miles round trip Chicago-MTL-Chicago so one would think your target $/mile on a round trip with those kinds of miles will likely be $1.80 at minimum and that yields $3060. Subtract $2200 from that rate and you get $860, which is only $1.01/mile and you realize that rate isn't going to fly (just like $500 from Toronto to Chicago doesn't fly with me.) A $1200 return rate would make the trip $2/mile, which is good and what you offered ($1400) was more than fair. There is nothing wrong with either the inbound or outbound rate. The carrier, whoever it is, is either being greedy or needs to remember he's doing transport pricing, not cocaine pricing.
 
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