Fuel Cost Relief

Cher

Cher

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When will the trucking industry get relief from fuel costs?

What trucking association will rally to the government for us ?

I.m interested in opinions from my friends at this site.

What would you like to see ?
 
I certainly don't want any Government intervention, they would just mess it up!

If the Gov't subsidizes fuel for us then the farmers and fisherman and construction companies want a break too.
 
Fuel is a cost of doing business do a good presentation to your customers and get them on a surcharge basis - no all in pricing. If you do it right you only have to do it once because they understand and it becomes a regular part of business - any good customer is already running with FSC.
 
lowmiler88 said:
Fuel is a cost of doing business do a good presentation to your customers and get them on a surcharge basis - no all in pricing. If you do it right you only have to do it once because they understand and it becomes a regular part of business - any good customer is already running with FSC.
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I find every time fuel goes up rates go down, like right now being offered all kinds of freight from lower US for $1.60 a mile is 1961 again duh
 
Fuel costs

I have been doing my own fuel tax for the past 10 years and I am still out one where it is best to fuel.

In Canada the cheapest place is Quebec because as usual the road tax is the highest in North America with @ $.1720 / KM while Ontario is @ $.1430.. The State of Missourri is $ .0462 or roughly the quarter of Quebec.

This is only one factor.
There are several others that need to be entertained, they are as follows. Most of these relate to US bound traffic.

1) The price in the region
2) The exchange rate.
3) The GST /PST tax that you get back, or version of in Canada which you do not get back from US sourced fuel.
4) Your fuel consumption
5) method of payment and transaction fees.

Therefore one needs a complicated little algorith that takes all these parameters into account.

We always get a sizable return check from the government because we fuel a lot in quebec and run mostly US miles.
That in itself does not mean that it is the most cost effective.
 
alx said:
In Canada the cheapest place is Quebec because as usual the road tax is the highest in North America with @ $.1720 / KM while Ontario is @ $.1430.. .
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Alx, should those numbers not be cost per litre of fuel and not cost per km or am I missing something?
 
alx said:
I have been doing my own fuel tax for the past 10 years and I am still out one where it is best to fuel.

In Canada the cheapest place is Quebec because as usual the road tax is the highest in North America with @ $.1720 / KM while Ontario is @ $.1430.. The State of Missourri is $ .0462 or roughly the quarter of Quebec.

This is only one factor.
There are several others that need to be entertained, they are as follows. Most of these relate to US bound traffic.

1) The price in the region
2) The exchange rate.
3) The GST /PST tax that you get back, or version of in Canada which you do not get back from US sourced fuel.
4) Your fuel consumption
5) method of payment and transaction fees.

Therefore one needs a complicated little algorith that takes all these parameters into account.

We always get a sizable return check from the government because we fuel a lot in quebec and run mostly US miles.
That in itself does not mean that it is the most cost effective.
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I do fuel tax here also and find the amount of credit you receive depends on the litres per kilometre rate you calculate for IFTA. The lower, the better and that means buying more fuel and minimizing kilometres. Ontario has a high fuel tax rate but that rate also factors in for what you get back. Having a "buy all your fuel where you are domiciled" policy means you get a bigger credit...it's even bigger if the jurisdiction you are domiciled in has a high tax rate too. Buying fuel in states/provinces that you routinely traverse/drive through to get to somewhere else will minimize your tax liability in those jurisdictions. In fact, you should try to zero out what you owe by buying an amount of fuel that will offset the tax. For example, if you routinely drive 500 km through one state or province (but never load or unload there) and get 3.5 L/km, your taxable litres is 142.86. So get your drivers to buy 143 litres on trips as well as buy all your fuel wherever you are based.
 
No problem Buddy

Ralph is saying the same thing as I.

Fuel tax costs are in $/km and not in $/gallon.

Your calculation is based on your average fuel economy , it is not the same for each truck, nor different companies. It is a variable.

Example : If you run Quebec - Ontario only and fuel price is equal , then fueling in Quebec is advantageous because of the higher tax rate in Quebec.
 
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Yes, you're right. That's the problem when IFTA calculations are based on your average L/km and looks only at litres purchased vs what is taxable (which is basically your kilometres travelled divided by average L/km.) I wish they'd just use gallons and miles lol.
 
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