Could a Canadian Carrier running interstates in U.S ?
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Canadian Carrier Interstating
Shakey, that is an interesting question but in my experiences, the authority on the side of the truck is the determining factor as to whether it is OK to Interstate, not the citizenship of the driver. For someone brand new to the business it might be better to stick to black and white for now. Go into the grey at your own peril.
Shakey, that is an interesting question but in my experiences, the authority on the side of the truck is the determining factor as to whether it is OK to Interstate, not the citizenship of the driver. For someone brand new to the business it might be better to stick to black and white for now. Go into the grey at your own peril.
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Doesn't matter where the equipment is plated. If the driver is not a US citizen then the simple answer is no, you can't do it.
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Driver must be a US citizen, have a green card, or he/she must be a status Aboriginal with the card/documentation to prove it.
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Yes my point - thanks Finnerty!!!
RK - not sure what you are talking about. But this is the most important to the driver, or if Aboriginal, as Freight Broker mentioned as well.
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Cabotage
There was a previous discussion about this topic a few months back. One of our collegues came out with the proper government documentation and it clearly stated that a Canadian carrier cannot perform any cabotage.
Look at it this way; it is simply a revenue issue.
The IRS has no way of collecting any revenue from this.
US Customs and immigration will tell you it is ok, but DOT will not allow it on orders from the IRS.
In order to operate in the USA - both the company and the driver must be registered in the USA and pay taxes on the revenue earned.
There are no exceptions such as carrying out point to point pick ups and deliveries along your route back into Canada throughout the USA, that is simply babble!!!
There was a previous discussion about this topic a few months back. One of our collegues came out with the proper government documentation and it clearly stated that a Canadian carrier cannot perform any cabotage.
Look at it this way; it is simply a revenue issue.
The IRS has no way of collecting any revenue from this.
US Customs and immigration will tell you it is ok, but DOT will not allow it on orders from the IRS.
In order to operate in the USA - both the company and the driver must be registered in the USA and pay taxes on the revenue earned.
There are no exceptions such as carrying out point to point pick ups and deliveries along your route back into Canada throughout the USA, that is simply babble!!!
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We had an American driver planned to pick up a load in North Dakota and take it to Laredo, TX. The driver arrived at the border and was asked where he was going. Believing that being an American citizen is allowed to do this, he said what he was planned to do. He was refused entry into North Dakota (from Manitoba) because DOT does not allow Canadian Carriers to interstate if they don't have proper authority.
I never mentioned where the truck is plated, I said the authority on the side. My original point was that for someone who is just getting into the business as it appears AKA is, he is best to stick to North-South to avoid costs that he likely can't afford right now. How many of us with comments have been in this business less than 2 years?
I never mentioned where the truck is plated, I said the authority on the side. My original point was that for someone who is just getting into the business as it appears AKA is, he is best to stick to North-South to avoid costs that he likely can't afford right now. How many of us with comments have been in this business less than 2 years?
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RK you are spot on
I know somewhat about the cabotage issue because I was once detained (nearly arrested) at the Lacolle QC. / Champlain NY. Crossing several years ago.
I was working as a dispatcher for Maisliner at the time. We were hauling lots of textile into NYC. Quite often the textiles were quota goods, requiring serious verification by US customs. We would hand in a bunch of documentation written in Chinese on rice paper, I still have no idea what they did with that stuff.
What this meant was that the driver could spend from 2 to 8 hours trying to clear the shipment.
We were busy as hell and had a shortage of drivers. Therefore we decided to be a RESPONSIBLE and SAFE carrier. We had asked our inbound driver to shut down on the US side at the truckstop and we would switch loads with him once the switch driver had cleared the quota goods at US customs.
We must have been short a local driver because I took a truck myself and went to do the switch.
I went to the booth and spoke to customs, the officer noticed I was a little overdressed, and asked me where I was going. I gave him the details and he had no problem, I was sent to inspection which was the norm for quota goods.
Although there was a DOT officer in the booth at the same time and he had an issue. The two guys argued amongst themselves and finally I was sent inside to immigartion.
I was now fully detained, wallet , cell phone and anything on me confiscated. I narowly escaped a full cavity search!!!
I was questionned by numerous officials moving higher through the echelons. The only thing that had saved me was that I had in my wallet a student ID card for McGill university, I was taking some night classes in law. It was touch and go for the last two hours, Immigration was deciding if they were going to seize the tractor , trailer and goods.
These guys were serious, nobody could get a hold of me for that period of time. I would not recommend this for the faint of hart.
I know somewhat about the cabotage issue because I was once detained (nearly arrested) at the Lacolle QC. / Champlain NY. Crossing several years ago.
I was working as a dispatcher for Maisliner at the time. We were hauling lots of textile into NYC. Quite often the textiles were quota goods, requiring serious verification by US customs. We would hand in a bunch of documentation written in Chinese on rice paper, I still have no idea what they did with that stuff.
What this meant was that the driver could spend from 2 to 8 hours trying to clear the shipment.
We were busy as hell and had a shortage of drivers. Therefore we decided to be a RESPONSIBLE and SAFE carrier. We had asked our inbound driver to shut down on the US side at the truckstop and we would switch loads with him once the switch driver had cleared the quota goods at US customs.
We must have been short a local driver because I took a truck myself and went to do the switch.
I went to the booth and spoke to customs, the officer noticed I was a little overdressed, and asked me where I was going. I gave him the details and he had no problem, I was sent to inspection which was the norm for quota goods.
Although there was a DOT officer in the booth at the same time and he had an issue. The two guys argued amongst themselves and finally I was sent inside to immigartion.
I was now fully detained, wallet , cell phone and anything on me confiscated. I narowly escaped a full cavity search!!!
I was questionned by numerous officials moving higher through the echelons. The only thing that had saved me was that I had in my wallet a student ID card for McGill university, I was taking some night classes in law. It was touch and go for the last two hours, Immigration was deciding if they were going to seize the tractor , trailer and goods.
These guys were serious, nobody could get a hold of me for that period of time. I would not recommend this for the faint of hart.