AES / 72 hour notice filings

[NTravels]

Afternoon All,

Hope everyone is doing well, and keeping as busy as possible.

I wanted to ask a question about AES/72 hour notice filings. I run a freight brokerage and do a lot of AES filing required shipments of used equipment (dozers, skid steers etc). After having a client receive a small fine for a carrier not stopping to get his paperwork stamped, I have recently started asking carriers to provide a stamped copy from CBP showing proof they stopped etc when they send in their freight invoices.

That said, I had a carrier recently not provide stamped proof, and then told me that the driver did stop, but CBP refused to stamp it.

I can obviously call CBP and ask this question directly, but I already find it a little hard to believe they refused to stamp a drivers paperwork.

Anyways, was wondering if anyone else has experienced anything simliar, or has thoughts regarding my approach to that.

Cheers.

 

[Rob]

Afternoon All,

Hope everyone is doing well, and keeping as busy as possible.

I wanted to ask a question about AES/72 hour notice filings. I run a freight brokerage and do a lot of AES filing required shipments of used equipment (dozers, skid steers etc). After having a client receive a small fine for a carrier not stopping to get his paperwork stamped, I have recently started asking carriers to provide a stamped copy from CBP showing proof they stopped etc when they send in their freight invoices.

That said, I had a carrier recently not provide stamped proof, and then told me that the driver did stop, but CBP refused to stamp it.

I can obviously call CBP and ask this question directly, but I already find it a little hard to believe they refused to stamp a drivers paperwork.

Anyways, was wondering if anyone else has experienced anything simliar, or has thoughts regarding my approach to that.

Cheers.

I have heard from a buddy that also does 72 hr all the time that Buffalo will do that and not stamp. Never had it happen to us.

 

[AA123]

You can ask for the ACI report to see what time the truck crossed the border.

Their office is only open from 8am-4pm.

So if the truck crossed at 8pm, you already know they didn't even attempt to get it stamped.

I had a driver get to the Buffalo border at 7pm before where I made him wait till the morning to get the stamp before crossing.

 

[NTravels]

I have heard from a buddy that also does 72 hr all the time that Buffalo will do that and not stamp. Never had it happen to us.

Well then, guess maybe there is some truth to that. Wild.

 

[Brenda]

I move a lot of used equipment as well and have had the same feedback - from an extremely reputable carrier. When the driver was insistent his docs be stamped he was told to leave. I find it depends on the port.

 

[Brenda]

You can ask for the ACI report to see what time the truck crossed the border.

Their office is only open from 8am-4pm.

So if the truck crossed at 8pm, you already know they didn't even attempt to get it stamped.

I had a driver get to the Buffalo border at 7pm before where I made him wait till the morning to get the stamp before crossing.

Depends on the port. There are locations where used equipment can cross on the weekends.

 

[honest]

Happens to us as well. Refuse driver's request for a stamp.

 

[bubba-one]

It's usually Detroit where they refuse to stamp on dozers and such items without a title, we usually ask for badge # then and leave. As for Rob saying Buffalo, they won't let you cross there with AES shipments so definitely a no stamp there, has to be Lewiston, Ny.

 

[vanspek]

It's different every time you show up to CBP. Buffalo + Detroit the worse but Port Huron is starting to act the same. One day everything is good. Go the next day (with exact same paperwork) and they'll request something additional.

It use to be you file your 72 hours, have a bill of sale marked paid + a certificate of origin (or an affidavit) and you would get a CBP stamp no problem. Now they try claiming you need things notarized, affidavit isn't suffice to some, an invoice isn't good - it has to say bill of sale.

 

[NTravels]

Yeah, it's the ports in the east I seem to be noticing the issues - Port Huron, Detroit, Lewiston.

Thankfully I have not experienced too many crossing issues in the last year or so, I tell clients to get a zero balance invoice, dated, and signed, or notorized and then a certificate of origin (usuallly clears with no issues). Sometimes I encounter clients who say they can't get a certificate of origin, so then I have them fill out a non-titled document, but I tell them straight-up that I take zero liability if the it gets rejected at customs and any additional costs will be their responsibility. However, I haven't really had too much issue with those either, but always push for the certificate instead, as we all know, officer to office you never know what will happen.

72 hour notices, good times! haha.