S & S Forwarding

ShipHapens

New Member
2
Dealt with Tony at SS Forwarding. Had a weekend move and his customer screwed up the paperwork twice on an Agriculture load and we sat at the border from 5:30 pm to 1:30 am and were only 1.5 hour late for our original delivery. He denied waiting time after promising he would take care of us at the time. Hit our DNU list.
 

PT INC

Member
5
Dealt with Tony at SS Forwarding. Had a weekend move and his customer screwed up the paperwork twice on an Agriculture load and we sat at the border from 5:30 pm to 1:30 am and were only 1.5 hour late for our original delivery. He denied waiting time after promising he would take care of us at the time. Hit our DNU list.
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tony scred us over too, we booked a reffer produce load from CA on his load tender it was only 1 pick up however when my team went to the location they redirected them to 4 locations for pick up and the final pick up location was in Salinas! which was 200 miles from his original pick up location yet this man didn't want to pay anything he said this is the produce biz sometimes it happens.

i am still fighting for all the extra charges load was done in AUG
 

shayne

Active Member
10
When I used to work for mtl based reefer company i dealt with him, he paid me waiting time on a load of carrots we picked up from il back to metro in montreal
 

Trucking18

New Member
2
S&S is on our Do not use list as well. They are liars and will not keep their word. Listen to others on here ...Dont fall for their BS !! They will delay sending a revised until load is delivered and then will never send agreed rate adjustment.
 

shayne

Active Member
10
S&S is on our Do not use list as well. They are liars and will not keep their word. Listen to others on here ...Dont fall for their BS !! They will delay sending a revised until load is delivered and then will never send agreed rate adjustment.
hmmmm tony and the squad seem to be very fair, that new young is meh but thats the biz
 

Gord M

Active Member
15
Alarm bells are making my ears bleed. Just like when brokers say they don't work with factors.
I don`t work with companies that use Factoring companies because factoring sucks the margin out of the carriers and eventually the Carriers go broke. If a carrier can`t run a trucking business without borrowing money for fuel for tomorrows loads its just a matter of time before they cant pay their drivers and my freight gets lost or delayed. So in a nutshell I don`t put myself in a position where my freight can get delayed indirectly due to Factoring companies, so I don`t deal with carriers that need factoring companies to operate.
 

loaders

Site Supporter
30
A carrier using a factoring company doesn't bother me as much as a carrier who is constantly changing factors. Our accounting department is busy enough without having to keep both eyes open for new assignment notices and release letters.
 

Gord M

Active Member
15
I thought we had seen everything, I don't know who S&S are or what kind of company they are but when we asked for a Credit App here is their response:

Please cancel this order.
We do not fill out credit apps for carriers

Regards,

Max Babitsky

Watts: 877-265-2244| Main: 416-477-5501 x1007
Fax: 416-477-5502 |Cell: 416-879-0853
Email: max@ssforwarding.com |Skype: max_babitsky
Address: 665 Millway Ave Unit 38|Vaughan, ON| L4K 3T8
That is so funny that they are offended you ask for their credit info...........All the major companies don`t mind, yet S&S is offended. That is the laugh of the day...............thank you I needed a Monday morning smile!
 

TRC604

Member
5
That is so funny that they are offended you ask for their credit info...........All the major companies don`t mind, yet S&S is offended. That is the laugh of the day...............thank you I needed a Monday morning smile!
S&S Forwarding
38 - 665 MILLWAY AVE
Vaughn, ON
L4K 3T8

We've hauled for them 12 times this year and the longest they took to pay was 39 days. However I'd be a little dissatisfied (putting it mildly) with the broker if they replied like that after asking for a credit reference.
 

KeyFactor

Active Member
10
I don`t work with companies that use Factoring companies because factoring sucks the margin out of the carriers and eventually the Carriers go broke. If a carrier can`t run a trucking business without borrowing money for fuel for tomorrows loads its just a matter of time before they cant pay their drivers and my freight gets lost or delayed. So in a nutshell I don`t put myself in a position where my freight can get delayed indirectly due to Factoring companies, so I don`t deal with carriers that need factoring companies to operate.
It's not about margins; it's about cash flow. Companies that are growing are almost always running at an operating cash flow deficit. Factoring directly addresses this problem and allows a company to continue growing. That said, gross margins in transport are extremely low (not unusual to see them below 10%) and under continuous pressure from rising costs (fuel, salaries, insurance). At the end of the day, factoring is a form of financial leverage, which can hasten the end of a company that isn't healthy or allow a well-managed one to prosper.
 

lowmiler88

Site Supporter
30
I was always against companies who factored but then someone asked me "why do we care how another company decides how to run their business?" If it works for them then that is all that matters and they provide us with good service.
 

loaders

Site Supporter
30
If you as a supplier, continue to receive payment for your invoices in a timely manner, who cares where the money is coming from? I have found that over the last number of years, factoring companies have become much more experienced in transportation and as a result, most are fairly easy to deal with and understanding of potential problems,i.e. claims, back charges, etc. . Of course this is coming from someone who pays factoring companies, not employs their services.
 

Shakey

Site Supporter
20
I know some very good carries that used service of factoring companies to help them build there business and now do not use them. As in all things there is good and bad players. Our industry has a lot of grey areas and that is why we have so many scammers in it, if they can scam and not be caught it will not go away.
 
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