Dash Cams

bellcitytransport

Active Member
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I'm sure this have been discussed multiple times. I'm looking for real life experiences that small fleets might have with dash cams. What are small fleets using? I'm looking for something that can be accessed from the cloud. Bendix offers Wingman and I'm trying to work with Omnitracs to see what they offer.

Ideas or suggestions are appreciated.

Thank you.
 

jonny-chicken

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15
The dash cams that I have for my highway trucks work in conjunction with my Keeptruckin' e-log. I don't have cameras in my local trucks.

I'm sure this have been discussed multiple times. I'm looking for real life experiences that small fleets might have with dash cams. What are small fleets using? I'm looking for something that can be accessed from the cloud. Bendix offers Wingman and I'm trying to work with Omnitracs to see what they offer.

Ideas or suggestions are appreciated.

Thank you.
I'm testing out the same system dad2andrew mentioned, Keep Truckin. We are near the end of a 30 day trial period in one truck.

The camera and e-log were easy to install and the video it takes is pretty good quality. There's a system in place where you can get emailed anytime there is a hard brake or speeding event, and you can click on a button and quickly see video of the event when it happened. You can see the driver going along, and someone cut in front and you can see the speed drop as it is displayed on screen. It's pretty cool actually.

You can't view a live image of the camera from your office, but you can download 1 minute clips of pretty much anytime the vehicle is running. You can choose based on time of day or even where they were on a map.
 

lowmiler88

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We use Peoplenet and it is great and you get a lot of safety analytics that you can sit down and have a good discussion with the drivers. The proof is right in front of them and they can't argue it.
 

dad2andrew

Active Member
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I'm testing out the same system dad2andrew mentioned, Keep Truckin. We are near the end of a 30 day trial period in one truck.
What do you think of the system? I'm pretty happy with it, very easy to use and suits my needs. My only 2 complaints are that 1. when a driver sends me a message on it I don't get email notification that I have a new message and 2. I can't log in as an "admin" or as myself on my phone to check in to things if needed. It is my only system to send messages to my drivers aside from sending a text; I don't have a dispatch or other system to send messages to them while they are out and about.
 

jonny-chicken

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What do you think of the system? I'm pretty happy with it, very easy to use and suits my needs. My only 2 complaints are that 1. when a driver sends me a message on it I don't get email notification that I have a new message and 2. I can't log in as an "admin" or as myself on my phone to check in to things if needed. It is my only system to send messages to my drivers aside from sending a text; I don't have a dispatch or other system to send messages to them while they are out and about.
I like it. The web interface is nice and easy to use, the google maps, the videos... It's all really great. The system we are currently using (VDO Roadlog) is lackluster at best and really it just barely meets our needs. KeepTruckin is more expensive than the current system, but it could be worth it.
 

lowmiler88

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2 things - make sure whatever your system it can/will be certified in Canada or else you are throwing your money away and I would also have a quick conversation with your insurance broker as they are finding Elog systems that are easily manipulated and it will cause trouble with you renewal.
 

lakey

Member
5
We use Peoplenet and it is great and you get a lot of safety analytics that you can sit down and have a good discussion with the drivers. The proof is right in front of them and they can't argue it.
I also use Peoplenet and wouldn't use another. Highly recommend it.
 

SCLBC

New Member
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We use Blackvue cameras, they may not be integrated with elog software or other transport software but they are simply one of the best dash cams out there. They offer 4k cameras as well and we have never seen such clear footage before. They have saved our behind multiple times for false/fraudulent insurance claims made by other parties.
 

RoadKing

Member
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I'm sure this have been discussed multiple times. I'm looking for real life experiences that small fleets might have with dash cams. What are small fleets using? I'm looking for something that can be accessed from the cloud. Bendix offers Wingman and I'm trying to work with Omnitracs to see what they offer.

Ideas or suggestions are appreciated.

Thank you.
Don’t bother with omnitracs!
Checkout www.samsara.com I think they have best dashcams in the market.
 

Jim L

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We have a policy that states all voice/sound recordings should be turned off.

This was in response to a case study I read where a carrier/trucker was sued in the US after a car ran a stop sign and drove into him. The defense lawyer sent the whole dash cam video of 2 hours to the plaintiff lawyer thinking that the plaintiff has no case. The plaintiff lawyer in court played to a jury a conversation that the driver had with his spouse about 45 minutes earlier. In this conversation, which only heard the drivers side, the driver verbally abused his spouse in a 15 minute ordeal that probably should have had 3/4 of it censored. The defense lawyer tried to object but the plaintiff lawyer said that it makes a case for the driver's state of mind and was overruled. In the end the jury awarded full compensation to the plaintiff. The case study was written to show that the plaintiff lawyer used this situation to 'poison' the jury. The jury punished the driver for his interaction with his spouse, not the actual inferred negligence on the driver. The defense lawyer didn't see this angle coming and was unprepared and unsuccessful in turning the trial around to sway the jury back into thinking about the actual harm done or failure to act committed by the driver. This case study was actually written for lawyers to ensure that they only send the pertinent evidence(in this case, the 30 seconds before the crash) and to deny all other dash footage unless the judge deems necessary. My policy responds and makes it unavailable to the lawyer to make that mistake. I wished I copied that case study because I cannot find it on the internet any more.

I also have a policy against driver facing cameras for the same reason. I do not need a camera recording something that a jury, with no truck driving experience or previous exposure to trucking, to think that something the driver did 10 minutes before an incident was so dangerous that they need to punish the driver.
 

lowmiler88

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We don't release footage to anybody including the Police without a court order, we will gladly show the video to the Police but they cannot have a copy of it. 1 of our videos ended up on one of the OPP's propaganda videos without our permission so that won't happen again.
 

Michael Ludwig

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I also have a policy against driver facing cameras for the same reason. I do not need a camera recording something that a jury, with no truck driving experience or previous exposure to trucking, to think that something the driver did 10 minutes before an incident was so dangerous that they need to punish the driver.
Same here. No driver facing camera ... EVER. Insurance company insisted on them, so I asked them how the following scenario would play out in a court of law ...
Driver is approaching an intersection and he clearly has the green light because it just changed. As driver is getting to the intersection he looks left and asserts there is no danger from that direction. He looks right and asserts that there is no danger from that direction. As he was taught to do, he looks left again as he's proceeding through the intersection when a car to his right jumps the light and runs into him.
By all accounts the driver is not at fault because the forward facing dash cam shows the car jump the light. However, the driver facing dash cam shows the driver looking the other way !!!
"Houston, we have a problem"
Insurance dropped their requirement for a driver facing dash cam.
 
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