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  1. Shakey

    Shakey Site Supporter

    best thing they could do or at least just hire some PI's to get the deadbeats off the gravy train
    hauling_ass and Rob like this.
  2. whatiship

    whatiship Well-Known Member

    It would be interesting if the govt sold the whole thing to a private insurance company. Would be a little more efficient.
  3. Freight Broker

    Freight Broker Well-Known Member

    Lots of people riding the WSIB gravy train too.. beats working for a living.
    Shakey likes this.
  4. thebluffs1

    thebluffs1 Site Supporter

    Chica is absolutely correct - the only reason that they are chronically underfunded is that they are chronically mismanaged and chronically overstaffed, I would add also add chronically inept and chronically..... you get the picture
    hauling_ass likes this.
  5. chica123

    chica123 Site Supporter

    We could start a whole new thread on the basis that WSIB is so highly mismanaged and non-functional both employers and employees. Yet we have no choice in the matter.....
  6. Igor Galanter

    Igor Galanter Active Member

    Thank you, gentlemen for support and understanding.
    I am Ok for now. Not bending any rules myself.
    Learning as I go, I am asking myself if another party required WSIB and we go from there.
    Although, sometimes, the person on the phone doesn't even know, so I am just passing them...
    In case I will grow I will make a move toward WSIB indefinitely.
    chica123 likes this.
  7. Salma

    Salma Active Member

    Unfortunately, WSIB is a HUGE, non-mandatory expense for single operator companies (actually, for all companies). There are a lot of them around and I am surprised that WSIB hasn't come up with any alternate options for them yet. (but that's another issue...)
    Money is already tight as it is and then you're going to add another monthly expense of several hundred dollars? It won't work unless the guy is running 24/7, which would never happen.
  8. chica123

    chica123 Site Supporter

    You might find worth considering Igor to register with WSIB and pay the premium...even if you are not legally obligated to do so. I hate paying for something I don't feel I need, but if it opens doors for you and legitimizes your business, you might just earn that money back in better or more frequent loads?
  9. loaders

    loaders Site Supporter

    Igor, I understand and appreciate the position you, as a single operator, are in. It is unfortunate that WSIB creates so many roadblocks and complicated procedures for operations such as yours. However, as a contractor of transportation services, we must follow the rules as laid done by the mandarins at WSIB. Not only do we expose ourselves to potential liability in the event of a workplace accident, but we also expose our customer, if the accident takes place at their facility during loading/unloading. The moment you, or your employee walks into the hospital or their doctors office and responds "yes" to the question "did the accident occur at work?", WSIB is on the case and will stop at nothing to determine if the injured party is registered with them. If they are not, they will track down anybody and everybody that was involved with the incident and try to collect from them. Once they have a "victim", they will most likely perform an audit to see if there are any other potential funds they can get.
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  10. theman

    theman Well-Known Member

    The best thing is always to find the right people to work with and build on that. When I was an operations guy on the carrier side, I purposely tried to limit the number of broker relationships I had to companies that I trusted. And if I had to play by the rules and get vetted, so be it. Nothing good comes without some sort of fight.
    Igor Galanter likes this.
  11. Igor Galanter

    Igor Galanter Active Member

    Yes, MikeJr, Iwas trying to convince, but then gave up.
    Large companies going by there policies and this is it.
    Well, there is enough work for me anyways...
  12. MikeJr

    MikeJr Moderator Staff Member

    I thought a single truck show (one courageous man/woman), could be exempt from WSIB as long as they provide their own coverage through insurance providers, blue cross, etc...? I thought that was encouraged/enforced by WSIB in order to prevent:
    I open a company, on my second delivery (just after my first payment to WSIB is cashed) I slip and fall out of my truck damaging my lower back and causing me not to be able to perform my work duties for years and being on long term disability. The doctor says it's very serious, the same doctor I golf with every weekend...

    I'm glad this thread is here, I'm looking forward to reading more.

    Keep well,
  13. Igor Galanter

    Igor Galanter Active Member

    I had numerous occasions when I was a guy for the load right now, but not having clearance letter makes us go apart. It takes a few weeks to receive one. So it's not a Link loads favorite.
    I can't sing up with every Link posters, hoping one day I'll get a load or two, even they not in to it either.
  14. loaders

    loaders Site Supporter

    Absolutely. Remember, WSIB is, and has been chronically underfunded for years, and will look into every nook and cranny to scrounge around for money. The best defense with them is to be pro-active and ensure that you have, as theman said, CYA with up to date clearance certificates for each and every carrier with partner with, even if it is just a one time load. If a carrier cannot provide you with their WSIB account number allowing you to monitor their status on-line, walk away and find someone who can.
    Trukker likes this.
  15. theman

    theman Well-Known Member

    The problem with the exemptions is that if someone gets hurt the WSIB is ultimately going to someone. These guys are like the mafia. I would always CYA in that regard.
    Trukker likes this.
  16. Trukker

    Trukker Member

    Yes I'm aware they have to have WCB (WSIB) and letters supporting as such as well as we make sure all Insurance and particulars are in order . We also like to maintain there safety ratings for record . I was not aware how ever WCB (WSIB) wants us to with hold payment as we have never with held payment before . They said they can still come back on us to receive payment if something were to occur . Of course all of our Lease Ops WCB is monitored .
  17. duke22

    duke22 Member

    We have several O/O that have WSIB Exemption letters on file, that we are able to utilize. The Exemption letter must come from WSIB however, we have had a few carriers send in their own exemption letters, those won't hold up.
  18. MikeJr

    MikeJr Moderator Staff Member

    I find the search by company name tool to be decent.

    Keep well,
  19. Nawk

    Nawk Well-Known Member

    Once you have their client number you can check coverage online yourself.
  20. theman

    theman Well-Known Member

    A WSIB certificate from your carrier partners should be a prerequisite for on-boarding a carrier. This has been common practice for many years.
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