Paying Drivers for Extra pickups

[vorobochek]

We are having an office argument that needs to be settled. Do you guys pay your driver for every pick up and delivery extra? if so how much? or do you pay for for every pickup and delivery including first and last.

What if a driver delivered in Florida, Came back to Montreal, and Brought a load from Montreal to Toronto (Home Terminal) Extra pick extra drop? Nothing? What's your take on all this.

Thank you.

Alex
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[Freight Broker]

I pay $50.00 for each pickup beyond first/last and for any off-route miles. In your example, one load is from FL to QC and the second load is from QC to Toronto. Two separate loads. The driver would be paid for each without any additional pickup/delivery charges.

 

[thebluffs1]

We pay for every pickup and delivery including first and last. Anything else assumes that we value drivers time as little as shippers/receivers and load brokers do.

 

[whatiship]

If a driver is picking up a full load he would normally be paid mileage from A to B. If extra picks are made enroute he should be paid extra for the additional pick and drop plus any extra mileage incurred. If it is a straight load drivers are not normally paid extra for the pickup and delivery.
The $50.00 standard is fine as long as it is a quick stop. If it is more than a half hour it is not worth his time to pull off the highway and this is where the beef begins. Pulling off the interstate for a quick pickup is one thing, having a driver stop in Chicago, deal with traffic and kill 2 hours for a skid is a whole different scenario.

 

[jonny-chicken]

If a driver is picking up a full load he would normally be paid mileage from A to B. If extra picks are made enroute he should be paid extra for the additional pick and drop plus any extra mileage incurred. If it is a straight load drivers are not normally paid extra for the pickup and delivery.
The $50.00 standard is fine as long as it is a quick stop. If it is more than a half hour it is not worth his time to pull off the highway and this is where the beef begins. Pulling off the interstate for a quick pickup is one thing, having a driver stop in Chicago, deal with traffic and kill 2 hours for a skid is a whole different scenario.

We do it the same way... The 1st pick and drop are included, and the driver is paid for any 'additional' picks/drops.

 

[Freight Broker]

We pay for every pickup and delivery including first and last. Anything else assumes that we value drivers time as little as shippers/receivers and load brokers do.

The pie is only so big regardless of how one slices it..You may pay first and last but I'll bet you that bottom line your driver pay is no better/worse than industry average. You can afford to pay a $.20+ per mile premium over what everyone else is paying?.. ha ha.. ya right.

 

[thebluffs1]

The pie is only so big regardless of how one slices it..You may pay first and last but I'll bet you that bottom line your driver pay is no better/worse than industry average. You can afford to pay a $.20+ per mile premium over what everyone else is paying?.. ha ha.. ya right.

@freightbroker - good point. The issuith the rating structure holistically is that it does not properly apportion costs to the physical pickup and physical delivery portion of each move- which in essence makes it part of the same piece of the pie. The expectation that carriers provide 2 hours free is part of that problem - even at one hour that math begins to look differently.

 

[theman]

I don't understand this thread ... is this talking about what the carrier pays the their actual driver for the pick-ups or what brokers/shippers are paying their carrier partners?

Drivers need to paid for their time. Even though longhaul driver pay is expressed as RPM, it's really a function of the amount of time to do the job. Just the same as what a carrier charges for their services.

I personally try to charge more than $50 per pick/drop because as a function of time $50 actually doesn't cut it.

 

[jonny-chicken]

I don't understand this thread ... is this talking about what the carrier pays the their actual driver for the pick-ups or what brokers/shippers are paying their carrier partners?

Drivers need to paid for their time. Even though longhaul driver pay is expressed as RPM, it's really a function of the amount of time to do the job. Just the same as what a carrier charges for their services.

I personally try to charge more than $50 per pick/drop because as a function of time $50 actually doesn't cut it.

Hey theman,

The original poster was asking about how carriers pay their drivers as he said "Do you guys pay your driver for every pick up and delivery extra?"

I would agree with you, $50 for an extra pick/drop to pay a carrier is pretty slim...

Unless of course, it's right next door! haahaa...

 

[Freight Broker]

$50.00 plus off route miles usually takes care of it... sometimes not if there's a big delay.. but that's where discretion comes in. Usually, if there's a big delay I pay my carrier out of pocket without billing the shipper/receiver. I assume my carrier makes it right with their driver. I suck it up and its usually not so bad as we brokers work on volume, and these costs can be apportioned over hundreds of loads. My shippers do not ask me to reimburse them for delays when I/my truck runs into a problem, so in all fairness I can't bill them for every problem that delays a truck on their end..

 

[Rob]

Drivers are paid for all picks and drops no freebies and we also pay hub miles as well as waiting time if they get stuck sitting. A drivers time has value and they should be paid for what they do not just the old if we get paid BS that some guys use on them

 

[Freight Broker]

Including first/last Rob? So on a straight truckload from Toronto to Montreal (350 miles) you would pay $100.00 plus mileage... or an additional $.2857 per mile over and above your mileage rate?

 

[Rob]

I pay driver $25 for every pick and drop they make.

 

[accounter]

I pay my guy 50 per pick up and 50 per drop after one free.

 

[theman]

Rob's point is correct. When a carrier gets paid whatever they get paid for extra picks/drops the driver gets a portion and the rest goes towards the equipment. Pick/drop pays for longhaul drivers are usually $25-$30 per, when it is local the drivers are paid hourly so that doesn't come into play.

 

[snafu]

I'm longhaul and we all get paid hourly from the time we pull in to the customer until the time we leave. Every time..no exceptions

 

[Michael Ludwig]

My guys get $18.00 per required stop (shipper, border, receiver), regardless of the time it takes up to 2 hours. After 2 hours they get paid by the hour until the job is complete. After 1 day they get a full 8 hour day's pay ($144.00), and if they have to overnight, they get a layover pay ($125.00) as well.