I also want to add one more item that exasperates the issues. Back in the day where the broker made more money, and the carriers also made profits, there was a lot more give and take. Sometimes it was just a cost of doing business and sometimes wasn't worth the argument because you didn't want to rock the boat. But now with computers calculating the exact costs at which we can operate; all the margins are just being sucked away and everyone just squeaking out what they can. There is no more 'cost of doing business' or 'lets not rock the boat'. Every cost needs to be justified and pushed back on whomever will pay it. We are not making our money moving freight any more, we are merely just trying to manage costs and left trying to recuperate the costs that were not put in the computer model.