Discussion in 'Workplace Safety and Insurance Board (WSIB)' started by keyfactor1, Feb 5, 2013.
Is there any way to look up CSST for Carriers in Quebec as we do in Ontario with WSIB?
I like the new system and am all for it. I am glad that I don't have to obtain and send those silly clearances out every 2 months.
There are carriers out there that were doctoring up their certificates and this will weed them out which is a good thing. Pay your monthly fees by the 25th and you'll have no problems.
It appears that the "ineligible for clearance" is removed by the next day for most of our requests. Like someone else, the WSIB moves in mysterious ways!
We had the same problem, premium was paid but ineligible for clearance. Here is what I found out:
We pay our premium on line, and on time. However there is normally a lapse of about 2 or 3 days before the money is credited to our account. That's when we are "ineligible". Soon as they get around to posting the money we become "eligible". Apparently this is a problem WSIB is working on.
Could be the company had worked out a payment plan for the year before instead of paying it all up front. Happened were I worked before and we could not get them. Just issues with each company and having to give the approx. amount of revenue we would have with each one.
Loaders....it means there is an issue and at present and they don't qualify for the clearance. If this appears the carrier will need to get it rectified on their end. And, I would imagine, if you give them freight WITHOUT a valid clearance you would be liable for the payments on the move if caught during an audit.
All I know is that our premiums were paid and it took 5 calls and 2 hours for ours to work. I have talked to a couple other carriers who said they did also.
We have just started to be more diligent in obtaining WSIB clearances from our carrier suppliers. As others said earlier in this thread, most times it works fine and we can get the certificate. However sometimes the systems says "ineligible for clearance certificate". Does anyone know what exactly this means? Is it WSIB premiums unpaid or coverage lapsed? Or can an account holder simply request that this information not be given out without their prior approval, in other words, you call me and I will get WSIB to create the certificate for you?
Didn't say anything about you at all...
no doubt the system isn't perfect...but nothing in life is.
But we weren't delinquent - that is what I was trying to say the first two times!!!! They admitted they have problems and took 5 people to figure out their problem but in your eyes as I see you have a hard time reading we were delinquent!! Go Figure !!!
Agreed...when it is working it is great...just lots of bugs in it still.
I've had no problems with it...every time I need a clearance certificate I punch in the info and I get my clearance certificate within seconds.
It is also good because you can see right away who is delinquent in their payments...so I stay away from those carriers.
Every time we go on the "system is temporarily unavailable" Typical Bureaucratic BS. Gov't says "use this site" before the site is fully operational! it's a joke right now but will be way better when it is fully functional.
New website sucks!!!!
Yes it is a great little website and after 2 days on the phone 5 different people telling us they do not understand why we can not get a new certificate because we are current they finally were able to get it fixed so we can. Whoo hoo much better than just phoning them and 30 seconds later the cert was coming off the fax machine!
WSIB has a great website...you can go online to get any carrier's clearance certificate within seconds.
Try Newfounfland - I recently gave some freight to a NL carrier going home from Ontario, asked for there version on workers comp. I now find that I am reponsible to report to NL annually, and can be held responsible if the carrier goes out of business before the annual reporting date. Opened a can of worms I should have left closed.
We were audited about 4 years ago. We were levied a fine of 30% of our brokerage income on any brokered load with an Ontario carrier that we did not have a clearance for (thankfully there was only one missing!). I forget how they came up with the 30%
Currently we collect clearances (or letters from the provincial body with an account number) for all Canadian companies or have them sign our "Hold Harmless" letter that we received the wording for from the WSIB officer.
Not sure if this will keep us safe in another audit.
Just one last thing. Don't forget that if are an Ontario based broker, you must be registered with WSIB and pay premiums for all your staff.
Granted, the rate is low compared to trucking companies, but heaven help you if WSIB catches you operating without being registered! Can you spell, 3 year retroactive penalty?
Thanks for the info...
I now know everything there is to know about trucking LMAO...
And Loaders, great scenario... and scary, isn't it?
WSIB is an "arms-length" department of the Ontario government. I believe all the other provinces have similar Boards. My mind boggles at a scenario where an Ontario based broker contracts a Manitoba based carrier to pick-up a load in Quebec destined for Alberta. The driver slips and falls, injuring himself at a truckstop in Saskatchewan. It is latter discovered that the Manitoba carrier is not registered with the Manitoba Workers Compensation Board. Has the Ontario broker exposed himself to problems from the Manitoba or Saskatchewan Board? Due diligence demands that brokers should request clearance certificates from all carriers regardless of where they (the broker or the carrier) are domiciled. Phew, what a business!